I kind of hope they just get real ballsy and start screwing with Israel. That's the best we can hope for....problem solved.
Syria Thread
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The HTS appears to be leaving the Syrian government intact, which is equally smart and surprising. I'm not sure what happens next but fighting between HTS and the Kurdish SDF seems inevitable. Turkey will likely move to seize Manbij and establish a buffer in Northern Syria. I wouldn't be surprised if Russia backs HTS so they can keep their bases in Tartus and Khemeimim.
ThunderHorse
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So, Syrian Arab Army general staff has essentially ordered a full surrender. The reprisals are about to get super wild.
Kraut783
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Agree....HTS and SDF have a date with destiny. I wonder if the US will back the SDF against a designated terrorist organization.
Or, are we to the point of ... "nah, pass this time"
Or, are we to the point of ... "nah, pass this time"
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It's the Kurds. Selling them out has become a sport in the US because we don't want to anger Turkey.
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I hope it's a "sit this one out", pull our troops back, and see what happens.
At some level, it seems Turkey and Israel agreed to throw support behind HTS and they appear to be establishing buffer zones. But Erdogan is as big as piece of shit as there is. That combined with HTS and the new power vacuum, seem to make for a long-term Syrian shit show. Let them sort it out.
Kraut783
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Pretty impressive tunnel system for Assad....cool man cave potential =)
ThunderHorse
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Israel supporting jihadis is really dumb. If that is the case, that just destabilizes their own border.
All y'all remember when Obama decided to throw money at the FSA and SDF and truly destabilize Syria which allowed ISIS to take over huge parts of Syria and Iraq...and the stabilizing force of all this wasn't our SF trotters protecting Shell's oil rigs but the Russians propping up Assad? So who were the bad guys there?
I feel like we were the direct cause of a lot bad shit in Syria and Iraq, but hey he was an ally of Putin and Iran so it's ok. Can we like stop doing dumb banana wars shit? These people all have the internet and Hiluxes, it's not 1922 where the American people aren't paying attention.
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They've supported Hamas both directly and indirectly since roughly the 70s/80s specifically to undermine attempts at any secular/moderate government from forming, specifically to prevent a two-state plan.
Them supporting Jihadists (if they are) is likely a similar strategy; disparate groups in-fighting are easier to deal with than a united front that might get more international support.
Devildoc
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This is bad for Iran, and probably less bad just slightly for Russia. I'm not confident for any non-Muslim Syrians. New boss same as old boss.
Israel doesn’t support jihadis…but it will never shrink from conniving to play them off against each other.
Muslims have been killing each other since the Prophet died. That’s why Israel still exists.
Muslims have been killing each other since the Prophet died. That’s why Israel still exists.
Obama owns this, but he doesn't care.
Kraut783
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Biden offers a blueprint for US support in Syria
Biden offers a blueprint for US support in SyriaBiden says U.S. will support Syria and its neighbors after Assad dynasty collapses
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/08/bid...-neighbors-after-assad-dynasty-collapses.htmlSo, the current President of the United States is going to send aid to the new regime of Syria.....the HTS....who has been a designated terrorist group by the US since 2012.
What the fuck is going on?
It looks on face value that the rebel leadership is being conciliatory IMO, keeping police in place, agreement with the army. Pragmatism seems to be at play IMO. It’s early days.
ThunderHorse
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These people be wilding.
Kinda wild that we are supporting terrorists in Syria, but remember, we supported terrorists in Afghanistan...and they did something back
Maybe we'll deploy to 200k to Syria and get stuck there for 20 years, that's Byron.
Kinda wild that we are supporting terrorists in Syria, but remember, we supported terrorists in Afghanistan...and they did something back
Maybe we'll deploy to 200k to Syria and get stuck there for 20 years, that's Byron.
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Kraut783
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"Syria is free. The rebels won. The people liberated themselves from tyranny."
Does he really believe that...the people didn't liberate themselves....another Sunni extremist terrorist group took advantage of the chaos and took the territory.
How'd that work out last time?
Does he really believe that...the people didn't liberate themselves....another Sunni extremist terrorist group took advantage of the chaos and took the territory.
How'd that work out last time?
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