“Disband the Cops” thread

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An Article from the New York Times from Survivors of the CHAZ. Sometimes journalism does happen there I guess. Abolish the Police? Those Who Survived the Chaos in Seattle Aren’t So Sure

SEATTLE — Faizel Khan was being told by the news media and his own mayor that the protests in his hometown were peaceful, with “a block party atmosphere.”

But that was not what he saw through the windows of his Seattle coffee shop. He saw encampments overtaking the sidewalks. He saw roving bands of masked protesters smashing windows and looting.

Young white men wielding guns would harangue customers as well as Mr. Khan, a gay man of Middle Eastern descent who moved here from Texas so he could more comfortably be out. To get into his coffee shop, he sometimes had to seek the permission of self-appointed armed guards to cross a border they had erected.

“They barricaded us all in here,” Mr. Khan said. “And they were sitting in lawn chairs with guns.”

For 23 days in June, about six blocks in the city’s Capitol Hill neighborhood were claimed by left-wing demonstrators and declared police-free. Protesters hailed it as liberation — from police oppression, from white supremacy — and a catalyst for a national movement.

In the wake of the killing of George Floyd by the Minneapolis police, the Black Lives Matter movement is calling to defund the police, arguing that the criminal justice system is inherently racist.

Leaders in many progressive cities are listening. In New York City, Mayor Bill de Blasio has announced a plan to shift $1 billion out of the police budget. The Minneapolis City Council is pitching a major reduction, and the Seattle City Council is pushing for a 50 percent cut to Police Department funding. (The mayor said that plan goes too far.)

Some even call for “abolishing the police” altogether and closing down precincts, which is what happened in Seattle.

That has left small-business owners as lonely voices in progressive areas, arguing that police officers are necessary and that cities cannot function without a robust public safety presence. In Minneapolis, Seattle and Portland, Ore., many of those business owners consider themselves progressive, and in interviews they express support for the Black Lives Matter movement. But they also worry that their businesses, already debilitated by the coronavirus pandemic, will struggle to survive if police departments and city governments cannot protect them.


On Capitol Hill, business crashed as the Seattle police refused to respond to calls to the area. Officers did not retake the region until July 1, after four shootings, including two fatal ones.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/07/style/modern-love-when-marriage-is-just-another-overhyped-nightclub.html?action=click&algo=top_conversion&block=editors_picks_recirc&fellback=true&imp_id=594230180&impression_id=414bcf42-d8bc-11ea-88ac-3b3f2d7b18f9&index=2&pgtype=Article®ion=ccolumn&req_id=339444187&surface=home-featured&action=click&module=editorContent&pgtype=Article®ion=CompanionColumn&contentCollection=Trending

Now a group of local businesses owners — including a locksmith, the owner of a tattoo parlor, a mechanic, the owners of a Mexican restaurant and Mr. Khan — is suing the city. The lawsuit claims that “Seattle’s unprecedented decision to abandon and close off an entire city neighborhood, leaving it unchecked by the police, unserved by fire and emergency health services, and inaccessible to the public” resulted in enormous property damage and lost revenue.

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San Antonio is increasing the PD budget ($8M IIRC) and the defund crowd is going nuts.
They are also going to move some stuff from the PD to other agencies (good move).
One of the issues is FD/PD is 24/7, other agencies will have to become 24/7 , that'll be fun to watch.
 

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San Antonio is increasing the PD budget ($8M IIRC) and the defund crowd is going nuts.
They are also going to move some stuff from the PD to other agencies (good move).
One of the issues is FD/PD is 24/7, other agencies will have to become 24/7 , that'll be fun to watch.
I have an acquaintance who is a psych NP, he gets paid double time and a half per hour to cover LE-related psych evals at night. He is on-call, doesn't actually have to be awake, and gets paid $140/hour for this. So all these people who think that a lot of LE duties should be relegated to non-LE personnel are not thinking about the downhill consequences of having to cover 24/7.
 

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Seattle PD will have to lay off 100 officers following the current budget cuts. The Command Staff of SPD also took it in the shorts on their salaries.

Seattle's first ever black woman police chief faces $100,000 pay cut thanks to Black Lives Matter
I know I can't be the only one to see the irony that Black Lives Matter--BLACK LIVES MATTER--created the circumstances in which the first black female police chief will now be in the 10th percentile of large city police chief salaries....
 

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