The China Thread (Threat)

R.Caerbannog

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China is inhumane asshole. Jesus Christ.
Feds seize products made from suspected human hair in crackdown on China forced labor

Also, for any fans of Branched Chain Amino Acids, try to find out where they're being sourced. :ack:
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amino acids leucine, isoleucine, and valine, used today mostly in dietary supplements and nutraceutical products, may be derived from human hair or duck feathers. One large company reported this information to us based on an official statement received from its Chinese supplier.
(Not a vegetarian. Just saying to try and avoid Chinese products.)
 

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Am I the only one who assumed that we were already doing this? Either way, unsurprising.

Chinese telecom penetration (esp. Huawei) into developing countries will be an issue of great concern going forward. I think the US and EU have effectively ceded control of telco infrastructure in Africa to Huawei, and next-gen infrastructure in the Middle East.
 

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Am I the only one who assumed that we were already doing this? Either way, unsurprising.

Chinese telecom penetration (esp. Huawei) into developing countries will be an issue of great concern going forward. I think the US and EU have effectively ceded control of telco infrastructure in Africa to Huawei, and next-gen infrastructure in the Middle East.
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Am I the only one who assumed that we were already doing this? Either way, unsurprising.

Chinese telecom penetration (esp. Huawei) into developing countries will be an issue of great concern going forward. I think the US and EU have effectively ceded control of telco infrastructure in Africa to Huawei, and next-gen infrastructure in the Middle East.
Not over here. It’s been mooted that the punch up vis a vis us & the PRC really started with our decision not to allow them to backbone the entire nation.
 

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It'll be interesting to see how U.S. businesses play this. Certainly, some will remain but I have to believe, from an ops/risk perspective, maintaining a presence there and in other parts of China may now be too high risk. We've already seen a shift in some manufacturing to other countries. Enough shift could result in significant economic impact to China.
 
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It'll be interesting to see how U.S. businesses play this. Certainly, some will remain but I have to believe, from an ops/risk perspective, maintaining a presence there and in other parts of China may now be too high risk. We've already seen a shift in some manufacturing to other countries. Enough shift could result in significant economic impact to China.
I support businesses moving from CN to PK. I still wouldn't buy their products.
 

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I support businesses moving from CN to PK. I still wouldn't buy their products.
That's the other part of the equation - consumers. Will they notice or care?

I pay much more attention now. I may not be all "Buy American" but I definitely make a concious effort not to buy anything made in China whenever I can help it. I also avoid products from Pakistan, because, you know, fuck them. Plus, I can get my underwear from the kids working for the cartels in Mexico and South America for cheaper anyway.
 

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That's the other part of the equation - consumers. Will they notice or care?

I pay much more attention now. I may not be all "Buy American" but I definitely make a concious effort not to buy anything made in China whenever I can help it. I also avoid products from Pakistan, because, you know, fuck them. Plus, I can get my underwear from the kids working for the cartels in Mexico and South America for cheaper anyway.
Consumers don't know or care...sort of. Busineses will listen to the consumers, but also the stockholders. If they think they can "shape the narrative" and keep everyone happy, they would bail in a heartbeat. Look at companies pulling ads from Facebook. That's all about image, so if a company thinks a move from one country's cheap, virtual slave labor to a different country's cheap, virtual slave labor is good...they gone.
 

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