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Message: [QUOTE="Cookie_, post: 583946, member: 12005"] I haven't ever heard red hat (outside of referring to Parachute Riggers specifically), but I'm pretty sure he's just referring to support troops as a whole. Support troops in SF groups are(at a minimum) airborne qualified, so Maroon beret=red hat. As there isn't really a standard indoc program for those support positions, you can get some less than stellar Joe's in Group. This can lead to Group Command not really wanting to devote resources to people who aren't team guys/high speed enablers. For example, I recently had a soldier come to my guard unit from active duty, were he served all 8 years between two groups. Even though he's airborne qualified, he hasn't jumped in years because (according to him) a large number of support troops were removed from jump status at his last unit. If I recall correctly, his understanding was only the parachute riggers and SOT-A members still jumped. ETA: [USER=18]@AWP[/USER] beat me to it [/QUOTE]