Allow Civilians to Live On Base?

[Crusader74]

Bad idea. @Marauder was was in the base I serve in now and we have a small housing estate that now has the majority of occupants as "overholders" . (Retired soldiers families who did not vacate when soldier died/retired) The point I'm alluding to is, they're not subject to military law and as such may cause massive headaches for the CO and the PM.

 

[Marine0311]

Military bases are for those that are serving. Anything else will create problems.

 

[Ranger Psych]

Why? Seriously, why? I don't know that I can think of one good reason why my civvie ass needs to live on a military base. Even if there would be any benefits, we don't deserve them. I'm sure the geniuses that build their homes right near the fence line on many bases bitch enough about the noise as is, so why would you actually want to be inside?

I live about 10 minutes from one of the more active naval air stations. The only place I wouldn't want to live, given the option of being on the perimeter, would be the ends of the runway... solely because military power is awesome, but it would get old. I wouldn't complain, and don't complain when I'm home and the SAR bird flies over my house about daily (training and one of them is actually based elsewhere)... I'd actually love to get a house in Cusseta, GA or Ft Mitchell, AL. Easy access route for base access, and relatively beautiful area provided the right property.

 

[BuckysBadger24]

I live about 10 minutes from one of the more active naval air stations. The only place I wouldn't want to live, given the option of being on the perimeter, would be the ends of the runway... solely because military power is awesome, but it would get old. I wouldn't complain, and don't complain when I'm home and the SAR bird flies over my house about daily (training and one of them is actually based elsewhere)... I'd actually love to get a house in Cusseta, GA or Ft Mitchell, AL. Easy access route for base access, and relatively beautiful area provided the right property.

See and that's what I mean. If you have no problem with the certain noises, then that's great and by all means go for it I say. In terms of living around the base that is, not on it (civilian wise I mean, not sure if retired or former members have the right to live on certain bases or not?) Now maybe you're military background helps you adjust to those types of things a little better, maybe it doesn't make a difference and distracting noise is distracting noise.

Example: I used to live less than a mile from Gen. Mitchell Airport, and at first I loved it because I loved watching the planes come in low over the lakefront. Then after a couple of months it started to get really old at 2, 3, 4 am etc. But I didn't complain because I chose that area to live. A couple of months after that I barely even noticed the noise. I would imagine that it would be a similar deal near one of the bases you mentioned, but I would probably choose against living there for the fact that I would know the noise was coming, and sure wasn't going anywhere.

I would be willing to bet the same people that would push for the right to live on base and enjoy whatever perks would come from that, would be the same people complaining to the base commander about the noise from this, and the distraction from that and yadda yadda yadda. I just can't see ANY benefit from this whatsoever other than one more weird problem for the folks in uniform to deal with.

 

[policemedic]

I suspect the obligations and restrictions imposed on civilians living on an Army post would make the experience less desirable than they think. However, to the extent that military training generates noise I never found that to be noticeable in the residential areas.

 

[Red Flag 1]

I've lived on several bases, including a couple of SAC bases. I've also lived in a gated community with a powerful HOA. The board members of the HOA made life on a military base look like Club Med. There were several "enforcement" members who were retired, and loved shit stirring. They were also prone to changing the rules without notice, and the appeal process was for show only.

 

[policemedic]

I've lived on several bases, including a couple of SAC bases. I've also lived in a gated community with a powerful HOA. The board members of the HOA made life on a military base look like Club Med. There were several "enforcement" members who were retired, and loved shit stirring. They were also prone to changing the rules without notice, and the appeal process was for show only.

Fuck HOAs.

 

[Phoenix]

Bad idea, at the very least. There is no way possible civilians could comply with U.C.M.J, even if modified. If they want the safety and security of a base, then move closer to one. What happens when said base XXX goes high alert status? " Mommy X, 3a.m What is that awful noise!? ' calls C.O. - C.O Mama, we are in the process of geeting a few Eagles in the sky, sorry for your inconvenience" I think not. Then complain that you all are not providing them with enough security, enough food, enough clothes, etc. They want security, enlist or grow a pair or become rent a cops. No free rides in my book. Earn their own keep or get the hell out of the way and deal with it. They made their bed, they can lay in their own mess.

 

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[BloodStripe]

Military failed to conduct background checks on civilians in base housing, putting troops at risk

Who da thunk?