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Message: [QUOTE="Hitman2/3, post: 30658, member: 101"] I don't know about the rifle portion, but the pistol position looks like something one of the guys I worked with showed us. As he explained it its used for extremely tight places, or tight corners where you can't fully extend your arms. There was also a carry that went along with it (pistol and hands right against your chest flat) that was used to keep the pistol in close so that in very close quarters somebody couldn't just grab it, If you notice on the pistol portion its done at extremly short range. The only difference is that the way he showed it you didn't use the sights since you were at three feet or less. Its pretty acurate up close, I don't think I would try it at a distance though. [/QUOTE]