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Message: [QUOTE="Trip_Wire, post: 53399, member: 239"] Nice weapon! I'll take two! On a side note, I never thought the 1928 Thompson or the Grease Gun, had that much recoil. The worst muzzle climb I experienced was with the M-2 Carbine. Most SWAT entry teams now use the M-4 type Carbines instead of the HK MP-5 which was popular when I was a SWAT Supervisor. IMO, The MP-5 with it's closed bolt operation and various choices of stocks and suppressors is still a VERY good weapon and it could be had in [U]10MM[/U] as well. I'm thinking that they even made one in .45 too. [/QUOTE]