Melbourne Incident

[CQB]

Overnight a man on Somali background shot a receptionist, taking a hostage. Police were called & he emerged firing at police. He is now deceased. The media & particularly our PM have been tub thumping all morning. I have a feeling this was a police assisted suicide, no matter what his claims were alleged to have been, but it's early days yet.

 

[Teufel]

How did he get a weapon? I thought Australia had crazy strict gun laws.

 

[SpitfireV]

He was a crim, those connections I'd imagine.

 

[DocIllinois]

He was a serious crim; known links to extremist organizations, a record of violence, and had been recently acquitted of a terrorist offense. I agree with @SpitfireV - it may have been just a matter of touching base with some bad homies to get ahold of some illicit guns, as is the case with hoodlums who are off limits for ownership in our country.

 

[Gunz]

When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns.

etc, etc, etc.

 

[Red Flag 1]

L

 

[Marauder06]

Overnight a man on Somali background shot a receptionist, taking a hostage. Police were called & he emerged firing at police. He is now deceased. The media & particularly our PM have been tub thumping all morning. I have a feeling this was a police assisted suicide, no matter what his claims were alleged to have been, but it's early days yet.

Police have confirmed they are treating the Brighton siege as "an act of terrorism"

 

[CQB]

I'll grant you that sir, but having watched the press conference, with the state premier, the police commissioner and others I formed the opinion he wanted to exit in a blaze of glory. There is a vague terrorist link in his past which would indicate some leaning in that direction & of course the usual statement from ISIS followed, bearing in mind they will claim anything such as the recent casino attack in Manila. I'm willing to have my opinion changed with further information.

 

[digrar]

How did he get a weapon? I thought Australia had crazy strict gun laws.

There are more legal weapons here now than there were pre the 1996 ban, Odin only knows how many illegal weapons are out there.

 

[CQB]

How did he get a weapon? I thought Australia had crazy strict gun laws.

Being a modest owner I know they are strict. However, the gun buy back schemes that we've had are voluntary giving rise to owners not handing them back but concealing them in various ways. Part of the Lindt cafe report on the siege calculated that there was approximately 65,000 firearms unaccounted for. The sawn off shotgun Man Monis used fell into this category as it was an old weapon and (if my memory served me) was untraceable. Victoria where the latest incident occurred, in my opinion has a somewhat firmer gun culture here in latte sipping Sydney. The guy had criminal links so it's not too much of a stretch to realise he could get a weapon.

 

[Marauder06]

I'll grant you that sir, but having watched the press conference, with the state premier, the police commissioner and others I formed the opinion he wanted to exit in a blaze of glory. There is a vague terrorist link in his past which would indicate some leaning in that direction & of course the usual statement from ISIS followed, bearing in mind they will claim anything such as the recent casino attack in Manila. I'm willing to have my opinion changed with further information.

The first sign of a possible terror link came when a male caller claiming to be linked to the siege called the Channel 7 newsroom in Melbourne saying: “This is for IS” and “This is for Al-Qaeda.”

The gunman, claimed by the terror group to be a “soldier of ISIS”, had come to the attention of counter-terror authorities almost a decade ago.

Khayre had been involved in a 2009 terror plot to attack Holsworthy Army barracks in Sydney’s southwest.

The plan was traced back to followers of a Somali-based terror group with strong links with Islamic State. Khayre is reported to have been Somali refugee who lived in Australia since he was a child.

Investigators thwarted the plot that if successful could have seen Australian soldiers killed with high-powered weapons.

The plan, known as the Neath plot, saw three men convicted and handed lengthy jail sentences.

However Khayre and another man involved were acquitted in 2010.

Police declare Brighton siege an act of terror as IS claims attack

 

[CQB]

There's more crime in his background than terror & it looks like he wasn't too good at it.

Brighton terrorist Yacqub Khayre had long history of drugs, guns and crime

 

[Dame]

Well fuck him. He's dead and his 15 minutes are up.

God rest the poor soul he took with him.

 

[CQB]

Oh indeed, couldn't agree more. Not widely reported is he called an escort agency and she was his hostage.

 

[Gunz]

There's no way this motherfucker should've been walking the streets a free man.

 

[CQB]

Too right in retrospect, but he had been fulfilling all the requirements of his parole; all boxes were ticked. The outcome is that the bail laws will be reviewed and are expected to change for those who are at risk of committing terrorism offences.

 

[Mac_NZ]

Cunt was hooked on Ice, if only there was a law against that as well.

 

[digrar]

Ice, Somalis, violent crime, it's the Melbourne trifecta.

 

[racing_kitty]

Considering that khat is to Somalis as Budweiser is to Bama fans, I'm not the least bit surprised he was hooked on ice. Gotta have something to fill the hole.

 

[digrar]

Too right in retrospect, but he had been fulfilling all the requirements of his parole; all boxes were ticked. The outcome is that the bail laws will be reviewed and are expected to change for those who are at risk of committing terrorism offences.

I think we're all wondering how many times the point has to be rammed home, too many of these violent offenders are out on bail when they should be in a small steel box. If the mitigating circumstance is that you were iced out of your bonce when you committed your violent crime, stiff shit, don't pass go, don't collect your 2 Melba and Monash drinking vouchers and go directly to gaol.