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Message: [QUOTE="Viper1, post: 371248, member: 193"] I agree and I also understand the USAF has continually pushed the envelope with aircraft, some being staples for many years (F-4, F-16, F-15) while others have been expensive but went the way of the dodo bird (F-106). It is a deterrent, but at what cost to other programs? As I've said before, regardless of whether the next-gen F-35 works or not, the USAF is able to persuade and influence effectively for funding. Good on them. If they ever do have to prove themselves in an air-to-air setting, I have no doubt they'll be successful; however it will also mean something big and different has kicked off. [/QUOTE]