WTF people?
SF/Ranger shanks TACP
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WTF people?
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Well......................., this reminds me of Holmes on a meat hook:
Both bother me, the real world more so. Impressive demonstration of "embracing the suck". One would wonder how many times infections, muscle and tendon damage is the end result. Said problems are for the medics to deal with later on; if I got his point correctly.
Wtf
That's the dumbest thing I've seen in a while
That's the dumbest thing I've seen in a while
So I decided to check CW3 Gary O'Neal, he is a legit badass. This is an article of him be Ing inducted into the Ranger Hall of fame:
Fort Bragg warrior inducted into Army Ranger Hall Of Fame | Article | The United States Army
Still think that is some crazy and dumb training, but what the hell do I know, CW3 O'Neal would probably beat my ass black and blue before I knew what happened, or shiv me to death with an ice pick. Anyway, before anyone starts talking too much shit, keep in mind, the old guy is one of our nations finest warriors and has BTDT a lot for a long time.
Fort Bragg warrior inducted into Army Ranger Hall Of Fame | Article | The United States Army
Still think that is some crazy and dumb training, but what the hell do I know, CW3 O'Neal would probably beat my ass black and blue before I knew what happened, or shiv me to death with an ice pick. Anyway, before anyone starts talking too much shit, keep in mind, the old guy is one of our nations finest warriors and has BTDT a lot for a long time.
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Thanks for the link on CW3 O'Neal, @Diamondback 2/2. I think O'Neal used this pretty graphic demonstration, to show that you can sustain injury in the field, and still go on to complete a mission. Do what you can to stay in the game. Then let the medics take care of you later. I think it takes a special kind of mind set to be able to understand, train for and carry on as demonstrated in O'Neal's video. Take this down a level or two, such as an extremity injury, and and train for that sort of event to overcome in the field.
That's my $.02 on the video's message.
I understand his theory, but I fail to see any benefit in jamming ice picks through your body parts, strapping water buckets to in and than spinning around for a few seconds.
I view this style of pain acclamation like saying "you may get set on fire in combat, so I'm going to burn you with this cigarette lighter so that you will know what its like and be able to carry on".
There are all kinds of painful ordeals that have been used throughout many historical cultures, rights of passage, moving into manhood, forging of a warrior, etc. Most of them IMO, are foolishness and sadistic and have no place in the modern world. But that's just my personal opinion, doesn't mean I'm right.
I watched my TL on my first deployment, try to get to his feet, when both legs and one arm was missing. I don't believe he had any "pain training" an honestly like to believe (hope) he didn't feel that shit at all.
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I think you can make the same point, and probably gain more practical benefit from the experience, if you engaged in a Sims gunfight. Take a few hits to the arm, stay in the fight, get to cover and quickly self-apply a TQ (properly, tight enough to occlude the radial pulse), and then engage more targets/continue mission.
Not only does this make you experience a bit of pain, but it reinforces the actions you should take if this ever happens for real...and isn't that the point of the exercise?
Not only does this make you experience a bit of pain, but it reinforces the actions you should take if this ever happens for real...and isn't that the point of the exercise?
I look forward to the days when guys like Vickers and Lamb make you run a course after lopping off a fingertip with a cigar cutter.
"This next drill I like to call the 'Nine Presidente.' You run it like a regular El Presidente drill, Demonstrator let me see your pinkie there, but you do it (CHOP) with 9 fingers. Now you know how to fight through pain and manipulate your weapon when it is slick with blood. Shooter ready! Standby...."
"This next drill I like to call the 'Nine Presidente.' You run it like a regular El Presidente drill, Demonstrator let me see your pinkie there, but you do it (CHOP) with 9 fingers. Now you know how to fight through pain and manipulate your weapon when it is slick with blood. Shooter ready! Standby...."
Sad part about that, some of their cult like followers would actually do it. I have often wondered if Vickers put out some just total crazy off the wall crap, how many people would blindly take it as the word of god, because it came from the mouth of a former CAG guy. It would be an interesting study to see who would call him out, who would blindly defend him, how many of peers would support him or just remain silent vs saying he was full of shit, etc. lol, stir the pot I say's...
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......and, save the finger in a little baggie. Once you get to the medics, they can reattach the finger for you
:-":wall:.
......and, save the finger in a little baggie. Once you get to the medics, they can reattach the finger for you
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He sounds pretty fucking badass. Though I did read this and wonder what the hell.
His head just popped right off! - Straight Dope Message Board
So this whole shanking someone thing, and any other general crazy stuff, wouldn't surprise me. :-/
His head just popped right off! - Straight Dope Message Board
So this whole shanking someone thing, and any other general crazy stuff, wouldn't surprise me. :-/
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Just popped that enemies head right off with just his hands, eh?
I wonder if Will Brink was ever afraid of this?
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