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Message: [QUOTE="Marauder06, post: 195336, member: 19"] So in the Tom Ricks article I linked to earlier, it mentioned a concept called "Uptonian Hunker." Not knowing what the hell that was, I followed the embedded link, which took me to a paper published in 1995 by a professor out of Johns Hopkins. The "Hunker" is explained in Page 6: What I found interesting was not the argument itself- much of which I think many of our members would echo- but when it was written. Upton was a veteran of the Civil War. So, what do you think? Are we going to enter into a "Uptonian Hunker" as explained above, or have we as a nation progressed past that? [/QUOTE]