Review War. What is it Good For?

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According to this man, alot actually. One item he didn't address, particularly for the 20th century, is technological innovation. Besides his argument about war's positive aspects, he closes with this:

Current trends suggest that robots will begin taking over our fighting in the 2040s—just around the time, the trends also suggest, that the United States, the world’s globocop, will be losing control of the international order. In the 1910s, the combination of a weakening globocop (Britain) and revolutionary new fighting machines (dreadnoughts, machine guns, aircraft, quick-firing artillery, internal combustion engines) ended a century of smaller, less bloody wars and set off a storm of steel. The 2040s promise a similar combination. The next 40 years could be the most dangerous in history.

A thought provoknig article with several points open to dicussion.

http://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2014/04/war-what-it-good-these-four-things-actually/82522/
 
Interesting article.

I agree robots will make war easier (in theory, less loss of life).

I also find it interesting that Western Nations seem to think an India vs Pakistan, or Iran vs whoever nuclear exchange is probable. I wonder if Russia and China think the same way?
 
I'll have to dig it up, but there's a...I think he's Canadian, but a historian or sociologist or some academic who states similar views. We're actually in better shape, violence is down, etc. The basic notion has some traction in academia. Without violence and the need for protection man wouldn't coalesce into communities and states. In the "long, long ago" we made conscious decisions to offset our natural and ugly condition. Something the..."softer" side of our civilization won't accept is that war is our destiny, man's destiny. It is inevitable.

I thought his point about America losing power or sway in the world would lead to war was interesting. I don't know if his timeline will be accurate, but the scenarios are plausible. Some "if's" come into play, but there's always some if's in any fortune telling...
 
Well, you can look at things from a cellular level up.

This entire planet, and everything on it.... is trying to kill us, and everything around it. Single cell organisms rape and destroy other cells, impregnating and repurposing those cells to do their bidding. Plant life grows in specific manners and distributes its progeny in order to outgrow/kill off the surrounding plant life, ensuring its species' survival. Animals hunt and eat each other, some killing for pure fun at times with the sole "rule" being "not our own". Then you have the humans, which have a multifaceted approach of being able to wreak the same devastation that everything else can but on a scale that otherwise dwarfs the capacity of the creatures below us on the food chain.... other than bacteria/viruses.

Natures "harmony" we so love to embrace is that plants feed off the carcasses and shits from the kills from the predators who hunted the herbavores which ate the plants. Violence is life on this planet, and people think that they can control it when they're surrounded by it.

Embracing the necessity of action at times, necessity of readiness, and necessity of restraint, as a coupled triad of violent reality.. is something that is necessary. I would love nothing more than for everyone to reliably get along and that I would never need to use any of my weapons in defensive anger at some point.... unfortunately, I'm a realist and there's daily news articles highlighting reasons I need to carry, I need to train, and I need to be prepared. Hopefully a combination of aggressive non-violent action through situational awareness, pre-planning for contingencies, and otherwise being proactive for awareness/acknowledgement/action against what might be/is a threat will prove effective. Unfortunately, that's not always the case and so a solid hand is required in order to ensure that life's wonderful card game is played in my favor, regardless of the flop so to speak.

As to progression of combat capability? I think that we'll remain at the forefront of that. I think that a large portion of world policing, specifically tuning and molding the world (where peaceful neighbors can focus more on growth rather than destruction and therefore benefit us as positive and capable partners in trade) can be accomplished through a cohesive and structured foreign policy that might actually end up costing less than the current status quo of "they don't like us too much, let's throw some money at them" which more often than not either retains someone that the local population dislikes (therefore harboring resentment as a nation other than command)... or retains a two-faced fuckstick and his cronie cooperative in power which is happy to take said cash while fully (and sometimes openly) planning to sink a shiv into our neck when the situation to do so presents itself.

Focusing on convincing the leadership of a nation to do the right thing and having them head in the most adventageous direction with the least amount of dislike towards us, is honestly one of the best ways to work. Even if it means that we just maintain an embassy and otherwise don't do a ton of anything with them. Use the classic "democratic mantra" of "never let a good catastrophe go to waste" and be fully prepared to step in and provide aid at THAT point when they most need it. Heads of state other than dictatorships, come and go. The people end up remembering. They will remember when our hospital ships were offshore caring for their injured, our air force was flying low overhead dropping supplies, and some of our forces wearing the flag on the ground were alongside them helping find/rescue or worst case put their loved ones to rest.
 
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Great article Free, and very thought provoking.

The leaps and bounds made in medicine (specifically trauma medicine) over the last decade are unreal.
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...3-a75e-463587891b57_story.html?wpmk=MK0000202

Norman Angell, the Paris editor of Britain’s Daily Mail, was a man who expected to be listened to. Yet even he was astonished by the success of his book “The Great Illusion,” in which he announced that war had put itself out of business. “The day for progress by force has passed,” he explained. From now on, “it will be progress by ideas or not at all.”

He wrote these words in 1910. One politician after another lined up to praise the book. Four years later, the same men started World War I. By 1918, they had killed 15 million people; by 1945, the death toll from two world wars had passed 100 million and a nuclear arms race had begun. In 1983, U.S. war games suggested that an all-out battle with the Soviet Union would kill a billion people — at the time, one human in five — in the first few weeks. And today, a century after the beginning of the Great War, civil war is raging in Syria, tanks are massing on Ukraine’s borders and a fight against terrorism seems to have no end.

So yes, war is hell — but have you considered the alternatives? When looking upon the long run of history, it becomes clear that through 10,000 years of conflict, humanity has created larger, more organized societies that have greatly reduced the risk that their members will die violently. These better organized societies also have created the conditions for higher living standards and economic growth. War has not only made us safer, but richer, too.
 
I just finished Morris' book and recommend it, particularly if you read higher level history/ foreign policy. It has a few dry patches, but it is "deep" without becoming ponderous. He tends to jump around a bit, writing about a concept in one chapter and referencing that point in later chapters. One nice feature of the e-book links his references, "As I pointed out in Chapter 5..." where you can click/ touch and it takes you there.

History, policy, statistics (and charts), but not a boring read. Entertaining? No, but educational without dragging you down.
 
@Ranger Psych, you mentioned "tuning and molding the world can be accomplished through a cohesive and structured foreign policy" are you referring to an acceptance of other political points of view? A worldwide-homogeneous-cultural thought maybe? Which is one of my favorite topics I personally like to fantasize sometimes. For many it's very naïve to think of a relativist world in which we can understand and accept another persons beliefs. The author of the article Freefalling posted says, "if conflicts could have been resolved by discussion instead of force, humanity could have had the benefits of larger societies without paying such a high cost". Nevertheless, discussions are always ambiguous because of relativism. What I say right now could most likely be bullshit for others despite importance or how intrinsically valuable it is just because what is good and outstanding for me is most likely paradoxical gibberish for the other; as its said before, one dislikes what one doesn't understand.
 
However!! This utopian thought of acceptance is bogus by the mere fact of the statement that Ranger Psych makes (and I agree also with it in that "Natures 'harmony' we so love to embrace is that plants feed off the carcasses and shits the kills from the predators who hunted the herbivores which ate the plants." Survival of the fittest my friends! Now what level will be next in this chaotic resolution to war? Robots? I guess in the near future governments will settle their disputes through a Call of Duty challenge. But maybe they'll start fighting trying to decide if they will settle it through Playstation or Xbox.
 
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