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[QUOTE="AWP, post: 619876, member: 18"] I think someone mentioned this on the board, so if I'm covering "old" ground, I apologize. For the record, I am pro-choice. I think there are limits, or should be, but my threshold for "full stop" is probably less than many liberals and more than most conservatives, but whatever. [I]Roe[/I] was a bad argument. Pinning the abortion question on right to privacy was a weak argument and one doomed to fail. There were better cases out which offered a better chance for a permanent solution. One of the critics of [I]Roe[/I] was no less than Ruth Bader Ginsburg. She took the above a step further and thought [I]Roe[/I] should have been rejected and the decision returned to the states. That would allow states to sort out that question, resulting in lawsuits that would inevitably make it to SCOTUS, so the ruling could be put to bed once-and-for-all. RBG's opinion on the matter predates her appointment to the Supreme Court. As a bit of trivia, I chuckled upon realizing she was confirmed 96-3 with about 40 Republicans voting Yea. In that mix were some pretty stalwart conservatives. How the turn tables... Anyway, something I think the Left has forgotten is Democrats had I think two 2-year windows where they controlled the White House, Senate, and House; something close to that. Anyway, whether they took [I]Roe[/I] for granted, forgot about it, were preoccupied with other political efforts (banning guns and the ACA), they failed to secure a woman's right to choose. For over 40 years, abortion in the US has hung by a thread and some of those screaming the loudest were in a position to make that thread a rope...but didn't. If you're pro-choice, you could at least recognize that there are a lot of bad actors who got us here today, not just Trump and 3 SCOTUS picks. One could say SCOTUS terminated something that wasn't viable in the real world. [/QUOTE]
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