Another U-Boat Found off NC

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Rather amazing it is in such good shape. Unless the depth charges damaged the right side of the U-boat or a lucky round hit the right place, the silhouette is perfect.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/21/us/north-carolina-u-boat-wreck/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
The German sub, the U-576, was found at the bottom of the Atlantic 30 miles off Cape Hatteras and just 240 yards from an American merchant ship, the merchant tanker Bluefields, which was part of a 24-ship U.S. convoy heading from Virginia to Key West, Florida, on July 14, 1942.

http://sanctuaries.noaa.gov/news/oct14/ks-520.html

http://monitor.noaa.gov/news/pdfs/pr102114.pdf

u576-sonar.jpg
 
Very cool!

I can't quite fathom why on earth the U-Boat commander surfaced following the attack. A seemingly foolish move, and a fatal one.
 
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Kraut783 said:
That is awesome......WWII is such an interesting conflict to look back on and analyze.
The U boat stuff along the East Coast is very interesting. Most people don't realize that at times U boats were even in our harbors, not just miles off shore, to the point where a handful of German saboteurs even came ashore.
 
The U boat stuff along the East Coast is very interesting. Most people don't realize that at times U boats were even in our harbors, not just miles off shore, to the point where a handful of German saboteurs even came ashore.

A group landed IVO of what is now the PGA at Sawgrass. Clay Blair's excellent series even recounted subs which were 40' of water in broad daylight. At least one tanker in the Jacksonville, FL area burned bright enough to illuminate beachgoers one evening. The war was on our doorstep in '42. There is a sunken U-boat in the Gulf Mexico and they were torpedoing ships leaving the Mississippi.
 
Incredible sonar profile.

U-Boats typically surfaced to finish their merchant victims off with the deck-mount to save torpedoes. But in this case, the sub had suffered severe damage to its main ballast tank prior to the engagement, so the surfacing was most likely inadvertent.
 
The U boat stuff along the East Coast is very interesting. Most people don't realize that at times U boats were even in our harbors, not just miles off shore, to the point where a handful of German saboteurs even came ashore.

They were looking for a Starbucks.....which had yet to be invented......got pissed off and left.

Now if only these guys can find that nuke off of Tybee Island.
 
The U boat stuff along the East Coast is very interesting. Most people don't realize that at times U boats were even in our harbors, not just miles off shore, to the point where a handful of German saboteurs even came ashore.

I explored U-853 which sits only a few miles off the coast of Rhode Island. The depth is attainable w/ scuba but you'll have to allot for decompression times. There's a big blast hole for the entry. Still has stuff and skeletons on board. There have been a few diver deaths on that rig.
 
"There have been a few diver deaths on that rig."

Mysterious deaths ? }:-)

I don't know the circumstances.

On one of my dives, I got caught on something. I had to ditch out of my BC and unhook my hose from a jagged protrusion.

No biggie but it could have went side ways. There are tight spaces.

I do not scoff at the power of Davy Jones' Locker.
 
I'm necroposting this old thread because I (well, anyone) can.

I've posted about reading Blair's two part U-Boat series. Long, a bit dry, but fascinating books. That had me think things like how many boats were there, losses on one patrol, losses with all hands, etc.

Because I'm me (and stupid...okay, that's redundant) I decided to answer those questions.

The German U-boats of WWII (Kriegsmarine) and WWI (Kaiserliche Marine) - uboat.net

Using links from the above I created a spreadsheet with some basic data. I only bothered with simple math for the numbers below. I intend to dump these into a database to play with the total statistics later. Data I pulled from those links included # of Patrols, Year for the First Patrol, Was it Sunk on the First Patrol, Total # of Days Spent on Patrol, and whether or not the boat was lost with all hands.

For the 3 or 4 of you still reading....

Total # of boats commissioned: 1156. 301 never made a patrol (too late, schoolhouse, etc.) so 74% of the force made at least one patrol (I called these boats "Active"). Of those 301, 172 were the new Type XXI and XXIII "Elektro boats*."

428 boats were lost with all hands, 421 of those were Active. The remaining 7 were lost on works-ups or as part of the schoolhouse. Sorry about not being MOSQ'ed, you're dead. 49% of the Active U-boats were lost with all hands.

Of boats with only one patrol, 182 were lost on their first with 130 going down with all hands; 21% and 71% respectively.

Roughly 3 out of 4 U-boat sailors were casualties and somewhere around 750 boats were lost.

* - To add some perspective on the technology and evolutionary change in tactics to take advantage of this technology, many of these boats spent 6 months to a full year in work-ups and training. Only a handful (I think it was 7) made combat patrols with a few sinking ships. Several went into a convoy without detection. We seriously had nothing to combat these craft once they submerged.
 
Very cool!

I can't quite fathom why on earth the U-Boat commander surfaced following the attack. A seemingly foolish move, and a fatal one.

I'm only up to '43 or so in the war, but some many of those cases were things like heavy damage to the boat, perceived heavy damage to the boat (some captains lost their nerve, some thought chlorine gas* was escaping, a few thought they could escape on the surface, I think one thought he could surface and use the gun to sink a merchant ship...but it was armed and both went down, etc. Some were just ineptly handled and a few had an "itchy neck" and were a bit overzealous in their pursuit of a Knight's Cross.

U-boat losses have some odd stories. Quite a few were rammed, mined, plain luck by an attacking ship or aircraft, I think one or two were lost when a captain an engineering officer didn't communicate and the latter scuttled the ship. More than a few boats were damaged and forced down to over 700 feet (one made it to a thousand without loss), a few commanders had a nervous breakdown, and one killed himself in the control room.

I think the most "amazing" loss is the U-boat (1206) sunk when its toilet malfunctioned with another (132) by a ship it targeted...when the ship blew up.
 
I'm only up to '43 or so in the war, but some many of those cases were things like heavy damage to the boat, perceived heavy damage to the boat (some captains lost their nerve, some thought chlorine gas* was escaping, a few thought they could escape on the surface, I think one thought he could surface and use the gun to sink a merchant ship...but it was armed and both went down, etc. Some were just ineptly handled and a few had an "itchy neck" and were a bit overzealous in their pursuit of a Knight's Cross.

U-boat losses have some odd stories. Quite a few were rammed, mined, plain luck by an attacking ship or aircraft, I think one or two were lost when a captain an engineering officer didn't communicate and the latter scuttled the ship. More than a few boats were damaged and forced down to over 700 feet (one made it to a thousand without loss), a few commanders had a nervous breakdown, and one killed himself in the control room.

I think the most "amazing" loss is the U-boat (1206) sunk when its toilet malfunctioned with another (132) by a ship it targeted...when the ship blew up.

Fascinating. A mate of mine dove a U Boat in Long Island sound years ago, that would be an amazing experience (the bastard also dove Truk Lagoon and Scapa Flow).

Have you by chance read Iron Coffins by Herbert Werner?
 
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