Distinguished Warfare Medal

[SkrewzLoose]

"Malaysian boner rot"

 

[Salt USMC]

Senate bill would bump down the DWM's precedence

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/new...-would-knock-down-rank-of-drone-medal-030713w

 

[surgicalcric]

Senate bill would bump down the DWM's precedence

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/new...-would-knock-down-rank-of-drone-medal-030713w

Wish it was down to the ARCOM level but...

 

[Chopstick]

I hope this just isnt lip service.
http://www.stripes.com/news/followi...utm_campaign=Daily+Headlines&utm_medium=email

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel has ordered a review of the new Distinguished Warfare Medal, a surprising reversal from the Pentagon’s insistence that the criticism surrounding the award would not change its future.
Pentagon spokesman George Little said Tuesday said the review was prompted by complaints from veterans groups and lawmakers about its ranking above the Bronze Star and Purple Heart.
The review, to be led by Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey, will look at whether the order of precedence for the new medal should be changed, but will not consider eliminating the new award. A report and decision on the issue is expected by April 12.
Little said those criticisms prompted Hagel to call for the review, and added that production of the new medal has been halted while the review is under way.

 

[Kraut783]

The above was also mentioned on national news this evening. So, it's getting a lot of press....

 

[DA SWO]

I hope this just isnt lip service.
http://www.stripes.com/news/following-complaints-hagel-orders-review-of-distinguished-warfare-medal-1.211531?=&utm_source=Stars and Stripes Emails&utm_campaign=Daily Headlines&utm_medium=email

My guess as a former 11B he might not be impressed with it ranking above a BSM. I see a downgrade in the future.

IIRC, a bill was also introduced downgrading the award. I still can't believe the Army and marine Corps agreed to this (ranking-wise).

 

[surgicalcric]

... I still can't believe the Army and Marine Corps agreed to this (ranking-wise).

I can surely believe it. The senior leadership in the Army is nothing to be excited about in the least.

 

[DA SWO]

No mo medal.

http://www.defense.gov/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=15934

Hagel eliminates the Medal and wants a Device Created for placement on Ribbons. I'm cool with that.

 

[AWP]

Wow...Hagel does something right. Must be a mistake.

 

[Marauder06]

A "device" now? Like what, a "JCOM w/D" (for drone) device? I still don't get why this even warrants any special recognition whatsoever, at least none that couldn't be adequately addressed through an existing award.

I'm glad this stupid idea of a medal that outranked the BSM got killed, though.

 

[DA SWO]

A "device" now? Like what, a "JCOM w/D" (for drone) device? I still don't get why this even warrants any special recognition whatsoever, at least none that couldn't be adequately addressed through an existing award.

I'm glad this stupid idea of a medal that outranked the BSM got killed, though.

I think they want something to attach to a MSM/ARCOM that would signify Combat Service vice a PCS reward.

 

[Marauder06]

That's exactly my point. An ARCOM can be a combat decoration too, as can a JSAM, JCOM, and any number of other awards. If it's good enough for the people risking life and limb forward, it certainly should be good enough for those who support the war from the safety of sanctuary.

"Hey Ranger, good deployment. Here's your ARCOM."

"Hey cyberguy, hear's your "different and therefore more 'special' device" to put on your JCOM."

Doesn't pass the common sense test, to me.

 

[Scotth]

Not a perfect decision but when are they ever? At least Hagel took a big step in the right direction and got rid of the potential medal's standing and then got rid of the medal all together.

FFS the crews servicing drones in the field were more hazarded in most cases then the pilots. In both cases of drone pilots or cyber guys they both work their shift and go home to their families and sleep in their own bed each night and they some how need special recognition that others aren't entitled to.:wall:

 

[pardus]

and they some how need special recognition that others aren't entitled to.:wall:

A reflection of society...

 

[Brill]

That's exactly my point. An ARCOM can be a combat decoration too, as can a JSAM, JCOM, and any number of other awards. If it's good enough for the people risking life and limb forward, it certainly should be good enough for those who support the war from the safety of sanctuary.

"Hey Ranger, good deployment. Here's your ARCOM."

"Hey cyberguy, hear's your "different and therefore more 'special' device" to put on your JCOM."

Doesn't pass the common sense test, to me.

Yes it can. Two soldiers in same action...tab = BSM, no tab = ARCOM. It be what it be.

 

[DA SWO]

I wouldn't be surprised to see the "Combat or Operational" device become an AOR standard. That allows you to determine a deployment award vice a PCS medal (both given out too freely).