Distinguished Warfare Medal

Haha that Avatar suits you;-) ... Talk about foot firmly in mouth, Check. Jesus, you guys really are tough. Too funny, I will us spell checker in future :ROFLMAO:

Haha, not too many people know who the avatar is. Loved that show!
 
Haha, not too many people know who the avatar is. Loved that show!

Hang on… just make sure this is 100% correct before I press send:thumbsup: Ok. Mr Windsor Davis; all round top bloke. Where did you watch this? It’s not been shown on British TV for years for some strange reason. Fantastic Show, glad you like it. Not sure if you are aware of Black Adder - Goes Forth!? this is an equally hilarious WWI comedy. By the way, I was allowed to sign the partition, so my vote is in for what it’s worth.
 
Hang on… just make sure this is 100% correct before I press send:thumbsup: Ok. Mr Windsor Davis; all round top bloke. Where did you watch this? It’s not been shown on British TV for years for some strange reason. Fantastic Show, glad you like it. Not sure if you are aware of Black Adder - Goes Forth!? this is an equally hilarious WWI comedy. By the way, I was allowed to sign the partition, so my vote is in for what it’s worth.
:ack::wall::ROFLMAO: Please calm down... I need a holiday… I obviously mean petition!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahah.
I’m pushing them out now Sir, and will follow by digesting a dictionary.

You Brits... always wanting to "partition" something. ;-) Maybe I should change your username to "Durand."
 
Hahaha… Excellent:ROFLMAO:. I need to slow down my word processing so my brain can catch up. I’m due a trip to the States, i have family in LA. May call down to Coronado and sort my head out.:wall:

I'm sure there's plenty of good facilities in the UK that can help you sort out your head. :-" Try Bethlem Royal Hospital...
 
Back on track to the topic,

I said I thought this was eye candy for Senior Officers, he is a clarifying statement from DoD:

"Senior civilian and military leaders decided on where to place the new medal in the order of precedence, he added. "We expect this award to be granted pretty rarely, and that factored in to the decision (on its precedence)," he said.

Combatant commanders must certify the impacts of the action before the award is forwarded to the service secretary for approval. The secretaries may not delegate that authority."

I hate to say this, but it is starting to sound like an AF initiated action. Not a lot of DFC's being handed out, so this is a way for the aviation community to look relevant in the war again. :thumbsdown:
 
Back on track to the topic,

I said I thought this was eye candy for Senior Officers, he is a clarifying statement from DoD:

"Senior civilian and military leaders decided on where to place the new medal in the order of precedence, he added. "We expect this award to be granted pretty rarely, and that factored in to the decision (on its precedence)," he said.

Combatant commanders must certify the impacts of the action before the award is forwarded to the service secretary for approval. The secretaries may not delegate that authority."

I hate to say this, but it is starting to sound like an AF initiated action. Not a lot of DFC's being handed out, so this is a way for the aviation community to look relevant in the war again. :thumbsdown:

"Granted rarely?" Then why do we even need a new medal? What's wrong with a JCOM or a MSM?

If this gets passed, it's going to get handed out like candy, to many more people than they were expected when they crafted this abortion.
 
The same people who approve the awarding of the BSM for meritorious service by finance personnel will be the same people who jump all over this when it comes out.
 
Got this in an email today from Senator Toomey:
Pentagon’s New Unmanned Aircraft/Cyber War Medal Placed Above Bronze Star In Order Of Precedence

Tuesday, Feb 19
WASHINGTON, D.C. - U.S. Senator Pat Toomey (R-Pa) today sent a letter to Defense Secretary Leon Panetta expressing his concern and asking why the Pentagon has reportedly decided to rank a new medal for drone operators and others not in direct ground combat above some long-standing combat valor medals.

The new Distinguished Warfare Medal will be awarded to pilots of unmanned aircraft, cyber war experts and personnel involved in combat operations who are neither physically present nor in a war zone facing risks of traditional combat service participants. According to recent news articles, in the military's "order of precedence" of various medals, the Distinguished Warfare Medal is slated to be ranked above some traditional combat valor medals such as the Bronze Star with valor device.
Sen. Toomey's letter is below:

The Honorable Leon E. Panetta
Secretary of Defense
1000 Defense Pentagon
Washington, D.C. 20301-1000

Dear Secretary Panetta:

I write to express my concern regarding the Distinguished Warfare Medal.

While fully supporting appropriate recognition of all military personnel whose extraordinary actions make a difference in combat operations, I am concerned about the new medal's possible ranking in DOD's order of precedence. It has come to my attention that the new medal may rank above some traditional combat valor medals, such as the Bronze Star Medal with valor device.

I respectfully request your answers to the following questions:

1. Where does DOD plan to rank the Distinguished Warfare Medal in the order of precedence, and what is the rationale?
2. To what extent were members of the veterans community, particularly those with combat service, consulted on the planned order of precedence?

Thank you for your service and attention to my request.

Sincerely,

Pat Toomey
U.S. Senator
 
Got this in an email today from Senator Toomey:

2. To what extent were members of the veterans community, particularly those with combat service, consulted on the planned order of precedence?

Hmmm I suspect not at all. I personally love how the SECDEF says that war has changed because he has seen firsthand how drones affect the fight. Well if he would accompany me to the Helmand Province I could show him just how much it's stayed the same. Still have guys shooting people in the face you know. Who will receive a commendation medal with V for their troubles if they're lucky.
 
"Granted rarely?" Then why do we even need a new medal? What's wrong with a JCOM or a MSM?

If this gets passed, it's going to get handed out like candy, to many more people than they were expected when they crafted this abortion.
I bet they're gonna make the ribbon for this medal be 4 stars in a blue field.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/23/u...as-those-in-combat-do.html?smid=fb-share&_r=0

I think this has already been posted but I wasn't able to check it because of all the stress I received doing google search and call of duty. It seems that this article/study are being used to validate the precedence of this medal.

My favorite parts:

"In a 2011 survey of nearly 840 drone operators, it found that 46 percent of Reaper and Predator pilots, and 48 percent of Global Hawk sensor operators, reported “high operational stress.” Those crews cited long hours and frequent shift changes as major causes."

"The study found that pilots of both manned and unmanned aircraft had lower rates of mental health problems than other Air Force personnel." I'm not trying to be a dick but Air Force personnel outside of AFSOC have to be the least stressed service members of any service. I work at a joint command (on an Air Force Base) and it is very apparent that the Air Force places a very high priority on families and quality of life.
 
:wall::wall::wall::wall:
Otherwise I'll just froth, hyperventilate, rant and be unprofessional.
Wait...there's got to be a medal for that, right?
 
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