Domestic Terrorism, Lone Wolf Attacks etc...

[Grunt]

"it's not credible".

It never is until it is my brother....

 

[amlove21]

It never is until it is my brother....

Give it 3 months. That's the going rate from "That's misinformation" to "We told you so" these days.

 

[AWP]

Give it 3 months. That's the going rate from "That's misinformation" to "We told you so" these days.

People give our three letter agencies shit, and they probably should, but the multitude of warnings over the years are either scare tactics or legit and those 3 letter folks did their jobs.

I'm cynical enough to believe the former and pragmatic enough to believe the latter. Right or wrong, I choose to believe the latter in part because some of our intel gathering capabilities or ri-donk-ulous. They are also illegal and have deleted the 4th Amendment.

 

[amlove21]

People give our three letter agencies shit, and they probably should, but the multitude of warnings over the years are either scare tactics or legit and those 3 letter folks did their jobs.

I'm cynical enough to believe the former and pragmatic enough to believe the latter. Right or wrong, I choose to believe the latter in part because some of our intel gathering capabilities or ri-donk-ulous. They are also illegal and have deleted the 4th Amendment.

For as much as I flame the alphabet bois, they aren't wrong 100%, and who knows what they've gotten right and then prevented by publicizing. You can't prove a counterfactual, so there is no logical way to surmise what good they've done in that arena, but still.

There are (just by looking at the boards) a ton of soft targets coming to the realization that they are in fact soft and there may be a threat. I think that's a positive output, even if the actual attack doesn't materialize.

Seeing 3/10 most wanted apprehended since Kash took office is a small +1 for those folks as well.

 

[AWP]

For as much as I flame the alphabet bois, they aren't wrong 100%, and who knows what they've gotten right and then prevented by publicizing. You can't prove a counterfactual, so there is no logical way to surmise what good they've done in that arena, but still.

There are (just by looking at the boards) a ton of soft targets coming to the realization that they are in fact soft and there may be a threat. I think that's a positive output, even if the actual attack doesn't materialize.

Seeing 3/10 most wanted apprehended since Kash took office is a small +1 for those folks as well.

I used to work with a lady who was a cybersecurity analyst for the CIA and then later the NSA. Some of her products became briefing points for the president's daily brief. She spoke quite negatively about her management and overwhelmingly positive about her coworkers and the work they did.

I'm probably retarded, but I think back to @Kraut783's comments about the rank and file FBI agents. Maybe I'm wrong, but I believe the three letter "grunts" are good people and great Americans. I think the GS-15+ folks are the problem. DOGE going after the sub-GS-14 folks is wrong, the reckoning needs to happen at higher levels.

We trust E-4's and Captains, but not E-9's and O-6's, yet the government is immune? Nah...

 

[Marauder06]

I used to work with a lady who was a cybersecurity analyst for the CIA and then later the NSA. Some of her products became briefing points for the president's daily brief. She spoke quite negatively about her management and overwhelmingly positive about her coworkers and the work they did.

I'm probably retarded, but I think back to @Kraut783's comments about the rank and file FBI agents. Maybe I'm wrong, but I believe the three letter "grunts" are good people and great Americans. I think the GS-15+ folks are the problem. DOGE going after the sub-GS-14 folks is wrong, the reckoning needs to happen at higher levels.

We trust E-4's and Captains, but not E-9's and O-6's, yet the government is immune? Nah...

^this was my experience, especially with the CIA. Entry level and top level folks were good. Top folks had made it, entry folks were just trying to keep their heads above water. But in middle management, where I had to live, it was different. It seemed that everyone wanted to horde info and no one wanted to take risks. Because risks are... well... risky. You don't get promoted by over-sharing info and/or taking risks operationally, personally, or professionally. That runs up against the culture in the SOF community, especially under McChrystal, which is very risk-tolerant, viewed us as all part of the same team, and had a policy of "share until it hurts."

 

[Grunt]

I worked with some really good guys at the Grunt level. But, there were a few of them - and they stuck out like a sore thumb - that had one main objective, and that was climbing the proverbial ladder and using whoever they needed to in order to accomplish that mission - including stomping on their own. It was sad to both witness and experience...

 

[Devildoc]

I used to work with a lady who was a cybersecurity analyst for the CIA and then later the NSA. Some of her products became briefing points for the president's daily brief. She spoke quite negatively about her management and overwhelmingly positive about her coworkers and the work they did.

I'm probably retarded, but I think back to @Kraut783's comments about the rank and file FBI agents. Maybe I'm wrong, but I believe the three letter "grunts" are good people and great Americans. I think the GS-15+ folks are the problem. DOGE going after the sub-GS-14 folks is wrong, the reckoning needs to happen at higher levels.

We trust E-4's and Captains, but not E-9's and O-6's, yet the government is immune? Nah...

I have a good friend who retired a couple years ago from the FBI. He purposely chose low-hanging fruit assignments to stay in North Carolina. He loved his job but always talked shit about anyone higher than the SAC.

A handful of people I knew at CIA and DIA said similar things, great people to work with, but not great people to work for.

 

[AWP]

I have a good friend who retired a couple years ago from the FBI. He purposely chose low-hanging fruit assignments to stay in North Carolina. He loved his job but always talked shit about anyone higher than the SAC.

A handful of people I knew at CIA and DIA said similar things, great people to work with, but not great people to work for.

Crazy if we applied to that the average Federal employee...

 

[BlackSmokeRisinG]

Sounds like part of the plot that Sarah Adams has been pushing since her SRS show appearance.

Also sounds like the Green Ford Ranger ANA vehicle in Kabul with an exact license plate # that became a Haqqanni VBIED a few weeks before everybody left in Agust 2021.

My heard it through the grapevine: Buddy of mine from the Army has a wife thats an Army PA. Says they've been training with civilian doctors at big city hospitals for MASCAL events. Some PAs are pushed out and working at civ hospitals around the country. Planning ahead for the expected ~2025 multi city attack. Mostly sounds like BS because the Army/Mil and DHS isn't that proactive.

 

[policemedic]

I used to work with a lady who was a cybersecurity analyst for the CIA and then later the NSA. Some of her products became briefing points for the president's daily brief. She spoke quite negatively about her management and overwhelmingly positive about her coworkers and the work they did.

I'm probably retarded, but I think back to @Kraut783's comments about the rank and file FBI agents. Maybe I'm wrong, but I believe the three letter "grunts" are good people and great Americans. I think the GS-15+ folks are the problem. DOGE going after the sub-GS-14 folks is wrong, the reckoning needs to happen at higher levels.

We trust E-4's and Captains, but not E-9's and O-6's, yet the government is immune? Nah...

As people and Americans, I like the FBI folks I’ve met. In fact, I’m working with some now.

Above the Special Agent level, it gets sketchy.

I was also not a fan of working cases with them (unless you were a TFO) because they want all the info and want to share none.