Ebola Outbreak of 2014

This is how it starts.

I'm not panicking, but this is exactly how things start to spiral out of control.
 
pardus said:
This is how it starts.

I'm not panicking, but this is exactly how things start to spiral out of control.
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Unfortunately, once one or several of the 132 passenger's minds begin working on them, they will realize everyone they have come into contact with as well and the fear and worry will spread like wildfire. Regardless of whether they had contact with the nurse or not...it won't matter to them.

Containment was lost long ago....
 
And consider if someone/group wanted to deliberately spread this...

Agree containment was lost due to incompetance. There was one patient with virtually unlimited resources for CDC to monitor, advise, and control and they f'd it up. Keep in mind, these are the same guys that left some small box just sitting around in a closet.

No worries though. Just wash your hands. They got this.
 
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When I read the news this morning about there being a second nurse infected, I was lead to believe that she made that flight before she fell ill.

According to the local CBS affiliate's online article, apparently that was bullshit.

The CDC has announced that the second healthcare worker diagnosed with Ebola — now identified as Amber Joy Vinson of Dallas — traveled by air Oct. 13, with a low-grade fever, a day before she showed up at the hospital reporting symptoms.
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Now, correct me if I'm wrong (I won't be butt hurt if you do), but isn't a low-grade fever usually the very first symptom that presents whenever ebola decides to make itself known in a person?

At first, I simply thought that Nurse Ratchet was stupid for flying when she knew she was at risk for having caught the virus, as she wouldn't know for sure if she would develop symptoms during her trip. After reading that, however, I'm all in favor of hammering her ass to a fucking cactus, assuming she survives. I hope she's fucking happy with herself for putting people at risk like that.
 
racing_kitty said:
When I read the news this morning about there being a second nurse infected, I was lead to believe that she made that flight before she fell ill.

According to the local CBS affiliate's online article, apparently that was bullshit.



Now, correct me if I'm wrong (I won't be butt hurt if you do), but isn't a low-grade fever usually the very first symptom that presents whenever ebola decides to make itself known in a person?

At first, I simply thought that Nurse Ratchet was stupid for flying when she knew she was at risk for having caught the virus, as she wouldn't know for sure if she would develop symptoms during her trip. After reading that, however, I'm all in favor of hammering her ass to a fucking cactus, assuming she survives. I hope she's fucking happy with herself for putting people at risk like that.
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Low grade fever in someone caring for an Ebola infected patient is a huge red flag. The symptomatic person should have gone straight back to the hospital, and nowhere else. I wonder what was so much more important, as to get in the way of what should have been simple professional thinking? When Atlanta did not become a vector for Ebola, I felt pretty encouraged. Now with things coming out of Dallas, literally, I am a little more concerned.

In looking at this at arms lenght, one would feel pretty comfortable in approaching this like HIV. Universal precautions, as practiced everywhere, should have been sufficent to protect care givers. What has broken down? Until that question is answered, folks will have the panic button close. My head says that Ebola should be pretty easy to get a handle on. Let the CDC do its job, and things should quiet down;..... should. Lets just hope someone in "leadership" dosen't decide Ebola is an endangered species, and this is Bush's fault:wall:.
 
racing_kitty said:
When I read the news this morning about there being a second nurse infected, I was lead to believe that she made that flight before she fell ill.

According to the local CBS affiliate's online article, apparently that was bullshit.



Now, correct me if I'm wrong (I won't be butt hurt if you do), but isn't a low-grade fever usually the very first symptom that presents whenever ebola decides to make itself known in a person?

At first, I simply thought that Nurse Ratchet was stupid for flying when she knew she was at risk for having caught the virus, as she wouldn't know for sure if she would develop symptoms during her trip. After reading that, however, I'm all in favor of hammering her ass to a fucking cactus, assuming she survives. I hope she's fucking happy with herself for putting people at risk like that.
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Don't care if she felt ill beforehand. As I said before it only takes one idiot. She should have been monitored for 25 days after TARD zero died. She will not be the worst idiot.
1) travel ban..will not make much of a diff but can't hurt
2) everyone that has contact...35 day quarantine
3) get our asses to Africa...and fix this shit. As I heard today. "I am in apt 101 and there is a fire in 909, I don't have to worry about it" it is going to reach you eventually.
 
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I wonder what was so much more important, as to get in the way of what should have been simple professional thinking?
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Planning her fucking wedding, that's what. From NBC's Atlanta local, channel 11:
She flew from Dallas to Cleveland on Wednesday and returned on Monday, boarding a Frontier Airlines even though she had a fever of 99.5 degrees.

"She flew into Cleveland to prepare for her wedding," said Toinette Parrilla, director of the Cleveland Department of Public Health.
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Her next stop is the hospital at Emory. Inconsiderate, selfish cunt that she is, while I don't wish death upon her, I hope that she fucking suffers to the maximum extent possible and that her conscience eats her alive. She should have fucking known better than to get on that damned plane.
 
I hate Meme's but i liked the movie reference with this one. I feel it accurately portrays all the misinformation they have been shoveling down our throats..

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My friend Suzanne is a vet in Memphis. The animal hospital she works at (Downtown Animal Hospital, if anyone is in the area) linked on FB to a blog post about what we know about Ebola and animals. I thought it was pretty good information.

This CDC's report states, “At this time, there have been no reports of dogs or cats becoming sick with Ebola or of being able to spread Ebola to people or other animals. Even in areas in Africa where Ebola is present, there have been no reports of dogs and cats becoming sick with Ebola. There is limited evidence that dogs become infected with Ebola virus, but there is no evidence that they develop disease.”

The only scientific study to date on Ebola virus in dogs was conducted by a French research team in 2005. They found that dogs near the 2001-2002 Gabon outbreak had antibodies to Ebola, indicating some form of infection and exposure. These dogs had likely been scavenging on human and animal carcasses infected with Ebola.

The truth is we know very little about Ebola in dogs. It is very important that we study any pets potentially infected with Ebola to better understand the risks and realities of this deadly disease.
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And the hits just keep on coming...


Scott Pelley's money shot is at roughly the 2:10 mark...

One health official said to me somebody dropped the ball. I then called the CDC and the agency said that this nurse, nurse Vinson, did in fact call the CDC several times before taking that flight and said she has a temperature, a fever of 99.5.

But the person at the CDC looked at a chart and because her fever wasn’t 100.4 or higher, she didn’t officially fall into the group of high risk. Now I think what’s disconcerting to people is that you would think common sense would tell you, well, after the first nurse, Nurse Pham became sick with Ebola, you would have thought, well, out of an abundance of caution let’s just keep her there and not have her get on the flight.
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This kind of stupidity can't be blamed on budget cuts.
 
You have to love the fact that 99.5 is so far from 100.4.

Really? She had contact with Duncan and they didn't find that to be enough of a concern for them to tell her not to fly.

They wonder why we don't believe or trust them. It's because they aren't trustworthy in anything they tell us.
 
racing_kitty said:
And the hits just keep on coming...


Scott Pelley's money shot is at roughly the 2:10 mark...



This kind of stupidity can't be blamed on budget cuts.
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Good lord, she called the CDC and they cleared her to fly?

This goes back to my statement that we don't know what we don't know.

50-70% Mortality Rate in 3rd world environments, experimental drugs in this country.

CDC too busy telling folks not to worry, and politicians demanding open borders and blaming non-existent budget cuts as the cause of the outbreak.

I wish AQ would nuke DC.
 
Someone in the CDC needs to be put against a wall and shot for this. Fucking morons!
 
I'm betting he works for the CDC. He believes the original memo. "Can't get it unless you play in her spit."
 
When did the CDC transform into just another shitty government department? I had the impression they were pretty damn good, but all this bullshittery doesn't make them look so good...
 

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