Ebola Outbreak of 2014

Roy knew a heck of alot more about tigers than most people. Doesn't mean he wasn't a dumbass for constantly sticking his neck near their mouth.
 
Scotth said:
...The doctor knows a heckuva lot more about the disease then anyone here and we should wait to condemn his action until we have reason to.
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All the more reason he should have had the sense to quarantine himself for the appropriate amount of time before putting himself out in the public.

My point is...he -- of all people -- should have known better than putting himself among hundreds of people without being past the incubation period himself. That is common sense.
 
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The majority are very smart people... but I've known doctors who are borderline tards. In terms of common sense, of course.
 
Scotth said:
I wouldn't get to excited just yet. Nobody in the general public has become infected by either Duncan or the doctor at this point.

The doctor knows a heckuva lot more about the disease then anyone here and we should wait to condemn his action until we have reason to.
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The doc in NYC, that became symptomatic after caring for Ebola patients, likely knows a great deal about Ebola. That he went there to care for those suffering says a lot for him. I wish him well, and pray he will recover from Ebola. As for folks here, there are probably one or two here that know a thing or two about viral illness, including Ebola .
 
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The doc in NYC, that became symptomatic after caring for Ebola patients, likely knows a great deal about Ebola. That he went there to care for those suffering says a lot for him. I wish him well, and pray he will recover from Ebola. As for folks here, ther are probably one or two here that know a thing or two about viral illness, including Ebola .
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Nice.
 
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Agoge said:
All the more reason he should have had the sense to quarantine himself for the appropriate amount of time before putting himself out in the public.

My point is...he -- of all people -- should have known better than putting himself among hundreds of people without being past the incubation period himself. That is common sense.
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Well in less than 3 weeks we will know if all the new found Ebola experts were right or not. Let me ask you a question. Do you think these health care professionals that risk their lives half way around the world to fight this disease come home with wanton disregard for the people at home having witness the disease first hand?
 
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Scotth said:
Well in less than 3 weeks we will know if all the new found Ebola experts were right or not. Let me ask you a question. Do you think the health care professionals that risk their lives half way around to fight this disease come home with wanton disregard for the people at home having witness the disease first hand?
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Nope...I sure don't. But, I do think they make mistakes just like everyone else does. And, I think they make some bad decisions like everyone else does.

In fact, I admire people who travel to other nations and utilize their gifts and training to help others...often times, putting their lives at risk to do so. As I think he did.

My only issue with it, is that he should have quarantined himself before coming back here when he wasn't sure he didn't have it since there is a 21 day incubation period. Nothing more. I simply think he could have made better decisions...especially since he has first hand knowledge of the ravages of that disease.
 
Are we really talking about ebola? What a downer, that stuff can kill you. You folks need to get with the times and distract yourselves with a little pop-culture, here ya go-
 
Agoge said:
Nope...I sure don't. But, I do think they make mistakes just like everyone else does. And, I think they make some bad decisions like everyone else does.

In fact, I admire people who travel to other nations and utilize their gifts and training to help others...often times, putting their lives at risk to do so. As I think he did.

My only issue with it, is that he should have quarantined himself before coming back here when he wasn't sure he didn't have it since there is a 21 day incubation period. Nothing more. I simply think he could have made better decisions...especially since he has first hand knowledge of the ravages of that disease.
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How can you criticize him for not "quarantined himself" what do you really know about his action other than some general references on news sites like he went jogging? I don't know you but when I jog I do it by myself. He was certainly out in the public but you don't think he understands the symptoms of Ebola and understands when your contagious or the system of the disease.

We can go back and forth on this issue but in less than three weeks we will all know definitely whether the doctor hazard anyone in this country.
 
Im starting to find it odd that, around this time every year, we seem to keep getting some new flu/disease scare; before a vaccine comes out and makes billions. The non-caring and HORRIBLE handling of this situation doesn't smell right to me. I wouldn't be surprised if parts of the Gov. saw this as a way to not just distract citizens from other issues, but also make a quick buck in the process. Vaccination is a billion dollar industry that's been catching a lot of flak lately. I hate yelling conspiracy, but I will yell a conspiracy of stupidity that gets taken advantage of on a yearly basis.
 
A3nema said:
Im starting to find it odd that, around this time every year, we seem to keep getting some new flu/disease scare; before a vaccine comes out and makes billions. The non-caring and HORRIBLE handling of this situation doesn't smell right to me. I wouldn't be surprised if parts of the Gov. saw this as a way to not just distract citizens from other issues, but also make a quick buck in the process. Vaccination is a billion dollar industry that's been catching a lot of flak lately. I hate yelling conspiracy, but I will yell a conspiracy of stupidity that gets taken advantage of on a yearly basis.
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How are vaccines catching flak? I don't know too many serious people who think vaccines are any sort of problem.
 
TLDR20 said:
How are vaccines catching flak? I don't know too many serious people who think vaccines are any sort of problem.
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There are people who think vaccines can cause things like Autism... yep. They're called 'anti-vaxxers'...

"The anti-vaccination movement (or vaccine hysteria) is an irrational trend of mistrust of vaccination that is almost as old as the technique itself. The movement (more mockingly referred to as "anti-vaxxers") blames vaccines, or their ingredients, for a range of maladies whose mechanisms are rejected or have not been explained by current scientific research. Some of these maladies can often be childhood illnesses in order to increase the emotive factor of the argument. The ubiquity of vaccination often makes it an easy target for blame.

Vaccine-preventable diseases have been a major cause of illness, death, and disability throughout human history. The advent of the modern vaccine era has changed this significantly; most North Americans and Europeans have little memory of a pre-vaccine era where diseases such as mumps and measles — to say nothing of smallpox or polio — were common and often deadly. In more recent times, there has been much debate in the press and in the doctor's office regarding vaccine safety — namely what possible side-effect vaccines cause and whether these outweigh the risks of leaving a population without a vaccination schedule. Vaccines have been alleged to cause all manner of illnesses; autism is a prominent example, as its direct causes are still fairly mysterious and probably very wide-ranging, with no single cause or lifestyle risk-factor being identified. Some prominent Americans have spoken out vociferously about the supposed danger of vaccines.[1]

Forty-eight US states allowed religious exemptions for compulsory vaccination as of 2014. In contrast only twenty states allow exemptions to children whose parents have philosophical or personal belief objections to vaccination.[2]"
 
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Like I said, serious people.
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I agree with you, but the problem is that the "not-so-serious" people are large enough to cause problems.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...e-anti-vaccine-movement-is-endangering-lives/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/danmunro/2014/01/23/big-data-crushes-anti-vaccination-movement/

If the educated believe the earth orbits the sun and the..."logic impaired" think otherwise, the latter still have a vote and conduct their lives accordingly. We can't underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups, particularly when they are easily swayed by mass media and clowns like Jenny McCarthy.
 
I think that to a great degree...we, in the West don't focus enough on coming up with vaccines for viruses that are deemed "third world". At some point, many of "those" viruses and diseases will eventually find their way to the US and I for one, don't want to have to play catch-up in the area of vaccines. I do admit my ignorance as to how much effort is put into those diseases; however, I'm not sure as to how important Ebola was to us prior to this outbreak. The above posted article does show some forethought with it.

I'm not an alarmist, but I don't necessarily see things getting better in our future concerning viral issues.
 
Agoge said:
I think that to a great degree...we, in the West don't focus enough on coming up with vaccines for viruses that are deemed "third world". At some point, many of "those" viruses and diseases will eventually find their way to the US and I for one, don't want to have to play catch-up in the area of vaccines. I do admit my ignorance as to how much effort is put into those diseases; however, I'm not sure as to how important Ebola was to us prior to this outbreak. The above posted article does show some forethought with it.

I'm not an alarmist, but I don't necessarily see things getting better in our future concerning viral issues.
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Africa and the rest of the third world don't do much for themselves either.

There is only so much we can do, at some point the people we are trying to "save" have to want to be saved.
 

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