What, in your opinion, is the difference between ego and confidence? Is one more useful than the other? Why or why not? Are there times that you have used one or the other to great advantage or disadvantage?
Ego vs Confidence
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Both can get you in lots of trouble and both can be fun to crush in others when they run their suck without having situational awareness.
That being said, I've used my confidence in my skills plenty of times as a medic (or faked it) in the olden days. If you project that this is a walk in the park for you and everything is calm and normal you can effect your patient. Ego is knowing when to ask for help in those situations BEFORE something bad happens.
That being said, I've used my confidence in my skills plenty of times as a medic (or faked it) in the olden days. If you project that this is a walk in the park for you and everything is calm and normal you can effect your patient. Ego is knowing when to ask for help in those situations BEFORE something bad happens.
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Confidence is when it works.
Ego is when it fails.
Ego is when it fails.
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I think it's how you present yourself and how you prepare for the task/challenge at hand. Confidence is the guy who keeps quiet and doesn't talk about what he's doing, goes out, stays focused and succeeds. Or he can fail but in doing so he blames no one but himself and does not let the defeat define him or deter him from trying again. Ego is a castle built on pillars of sand.
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I can't "like" things so I'll just quote this.
In my world I deal with two kind of people, hedge fund managers you never hear of but manage hundreds of millions of dollars of funds. Those guys are confident. Then you have the wannabe money manager who rant about all the things they can do but have zero track-record with client funds. That's ego.
Confidence: During jump week, I had confidence in my equipment and training.
Ego: During Jump week my ego wouldn't let me show anyone how scared I was to jump out of a plane.
Both have a benefit WHEN KEPT IN CHECK. Being overconfident causes one to under prepare. Having too much of an ego makes one intolerable.
Ego: During Jump week my ego wouldn't let me show anyone how scared I was to jump out of a plane.
Both have a benefit WHEN KEPT IN CHECK. Being overconfident causes one to under prepare. Having too much of an ego makes one intolerable.
Ego = Flaunting
Confidence = Doing
One needs an audience and the other doesn't care, one way or the other.
Confidence = Doing
One needs an audience and the other doesn't care, one way or the other.
Agree with response #8 (Centermass above)
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Ego, is self. Confidence shades, and displays ego.
I think you have to have a proper amount of ego (I.e. self esteem) to have sufficient confidence in your knowledge, experience or skill. If you are lacking in ego, it more than likely comes from a lack of confidence. If you have to much ego, it probably is coming from to much or a false confidence.
No offense to Cback or x SF med, just using them as a humouring examples for my point of view.
Example 1: @cback0220 has a big ego, b/c he is overly confident that he can bang your mom.
Example 2: @x SF med has proportionate ego, b/c of his confidence in his education and use of proper spelling and grammar.
We may view Cback as someone with to much ego b/c of his false confidence in his self to bang moms. But even though X SF med's ego may be more dominant when being a spelling Nazi, it is acceptable due to his confidence and track record for being correct in his spelling and or grammar corrections.
Everyone has an ego, the proportion of said ego to their actual confidence, knowledge, skill, or track record, is defined by the people to whom that ego is projected upon, and how in or out of proportion the ego actually is.
Now someone who keeps their ego in check but still maintains their confidence, is someone I would say is well balanced and humble. I've normally seen type A's with dominate ego's (inflated or not) become more balanced and humble around new people or people to whom they are unfamiliar. A few times I have seen type A's go the other direction as well.
Although there is a difference between ego and confidence, I don't really think you can divide the two, nor do I think you should. I think maintaining balance of oneself is deeply connected to the balance of one's ego and self confidence.
Just my $.02
No offense to Cback or x SF med, just using them as a humouring examples for my point of view.
Example 1: @cback0220 has a big ego, b/c he is overly confident that he can bang your mom.
Example 2: @x SF med has proportionate ego, b/c of his confidence in his education and use of proper spelling and grammar.
We may view Cback as someone with to much ego b/c of his false confidence in his self to bang moms. But even though X SF med's ego may be more dominant when being a spelling Nazi, it is acceptable due to his confidence and track record for being correct in his spelling and or grammar corrections.
Everyone has an ego, the proportion of said ego to their actual confidence, knowledge, skill, or track record, is defined by the people to whom that ego is projected upon, and how in or out of proportion the ego actually is.
Now someone who keeps their ego in check but still maintains their confidence, is someone I would say is well balanced and humble. I've normally seen type A's with dominate ego's (inflated or not) become more balanced and humble around new people or people to whom they are unfamiliar. A few times I have seen type A's go the other direction as well.
Although there is a difference between ego and confidence, I don't really think you can divide the two, nor do I think you should. I think maintaining balance of oneself is deeply connected to the balance of one's ego and self confidence.
Just my $.02
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Confidence is something that is grounded in fact; ego often is not.
Confidence knows when it is out of its depth; ego does not.
Confidence knows when it is out of its depth; ego does not.
I have been accused of having an ego. I believe confidence and ego run a thin line. I can't speak of SOF but as a Paratrooper, we all pretty much had ego's, thinking our shit did not stink. I believe I am humble on what I do and also try to keep things in check. Now, I do come off cocky but at least in my field, if you show up to a call, shooting or some dick head pumping his chest out and display a weak attitude, you will get walked on. So, I need to display a confident attitude, which gets misconstrued as ego. Understand?
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I am SHOCKED at this statement!!!!!
You want to see ego's.... Talk to a Doctor (especially any type of specialist surgeons) and tell them they're fucked up and wrong. After that, talk to a fighter jock/aircrew that have air to air kills.... Then talk to an attack helicopter pilot in the CW2-juniorCW4 range....
After completing the above... you can then wipe the ego off in a hot shower....
Now for a real treat fuck with a SGM/CSM with a full Tower of Power; with all evidence pointing at one of the LT's or junior Cpts on the staff...
I think it should be more Confidence vs Arrogance!
I think that's a better distinction to which more people will be able to relate. I lot of people don't understand what "ego" is. They think they do, but they really don't. Which means there will be a whole lot of people either not understanding your differentiation between the two, or discounting it entirely. IMO confidence vs. arrogance is a more-intuitive distinction that might garner a better response.
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There you go, bringing Freud into it.
Arrogance may be a better descriptor for what we've been discussing. Most of the replies could fairly be said to be referring to arrogance.
I'd be willing to bet that the majority of us on this site have been referred to as arrogant at one time or another. I know I have; clearly those people were wrong
. I think confidently expressing a strong opinion, even without any semblance of rancor, can often be misinterpreted as arrogance. This is particularly true if you are correcting someone.
Great point, I hadn't thought of it in the frame of reference before, but that is a very applicable distinction that I should be making in this chapter...
This is me...This is the world...I hold my palm out, point to the middle and say "me" and then make a circle around me and say "this is the world". Get it. I am the fucking man.
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