Establishment of new intel MOS - 35Q

I have actually noticed quite a few MOS's that have lowered GT standards though. Of note, both SF and Rangers have dropped their minimum GT from 110 to 107, and I know the 75th liasons will make exceptions on the 107 for in-service applicants who are only a couple points shy but have exceptional PT scores. Recruiters can also get up to a 3 point line score waiver on 18x contracts as well, again depending on exceptional circumstances (college degree, or other applicable experience).
 
Even with lower GT and ST score requirements, this MOS is going to be difficult for soldiers to reclassify into because of the TS/SCI and mandatory CSP that must be obtained prior to reclassification. I have to wait for the reclassification MILPER message to come out before I can even schedule to take the CSP. USAREUR only has one place to go for a poly as well. They told me that the CSP is typically not given to soldiers who are reclassifying because this is done at AIT; however, this is the only MOS that will require the CSP be conducted before reclassification can be done.
 
I have actually noticed quite a few MOS's that have lowered GT standards though. Of note, both SF and Rangers have dropped their minimum GT from 110 to 107, and I know the 75th liasons will make exceptions on the 107 for in-service applicants who are only a couple points shy but have exceptional PT scores. Recruiters can also get up to a 3 point line score waiver on 18x contracts as well, again depending on exceptional circumstances (college degree, or other applicable experience).
There are a couple guys I know in SF who I would assume have negative numbers for a GT score, not many, but a few.
 
There are a couple guys I know in SF who I would assume have negative numbers for a GT score, not many, but a few.

This is awfully suprising. I'll admit that I've never personally known any SF soldiers, but from how I've seen them characterized ('Chosen Soldier', 'Masters of Chaos', various TV shows, etc) they are supposed to be very bright and adept guys. Are they dumb, say, compared to your college grad? Or dumb compared to your average motor T guy?
 
This is awfully suprising. I'll admit that I've never personally known any SF soldiers, but from how I've seen them characterized ('Chosen Soldier', 'Masters of Chaos', various TV shows, etc) they are supposed to be very bright and adept guys. Are they dumb, say, compared to your college grad? Or dumb compared to your average motor T guy?

No matter how legitimately elite a group is, there are always a handful who scrape by or who have slipped through the cracks.
 
Well, I am officially slotted for 35Q. Reenlisting in 2 days. Going to school for MOS in the fourth month of the 13th year. Process was long and painful, Retention @ HRC was a little confused by the requirements, but the MI Branch and Retention @ HRC got it all figured out. Good luck to all going into this MOS. Thanks for the info, will pass the site on to others.
 
Well, I am officially slotted for 35Q. Reenlisting in 2 days. Going to school for MOS in the fourth month of the 13th year. Process was long and painful, Retention @ HRC was a little confused by the requirements, but the MI Branch and Retention @ HRC got it all figured out. Good luck to all going into this MOS. Thanks for the info, will pass the site on to others.
Do you know if current future soldiers are able to enlist into this MOS I've been looking everywhere but cant find much?
 
Do you know if current future soldiers are able to enlist into this MOS I've been looking everywhere but cant find much?

Hi Micheal, please familiarize yourself with the site rules and make an into before you make any other posts, including a response to this one. Thanks.
 
Yes you can: http://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-j...t/cryptologic-network-warfare-specialist.html (See my FYI at the bottom for more info_

Since I have gotten a few messages from visitors of this forum, I will just post the details of the in-service reclass process I went through here:

Ok so details:

1. I had been trying for over a year to get into cyber warfare, so I can conduct CNO/CNA for my country instead of going to Federal prison for it.
-I had talked to a SGM and MSG at AC-11, that were part of a Red Team-April/May 2011
-They forwarded my Bio to the CSM of ARCYBER
-Then he forwarded by stuff to 1st IO
-They only a a slot for a sergeant no E-4 and below in the entire Battalion
-Then I contacted the "ANWB" which is 780th MI Bde/781st MI Bn-who is now the unit that 35q's report to in MD and there is also 782nd in GA.
-They told me to hold off until 35q was out, because you had to be a 35S/35N with the N6 ASI (JCAC).
-I used my resources on the classified side of the house to locate some docs about the future 35Q MOS.
-Found the LTC of the MI branch on one the documents (didn't know he was the branch chief at the time)
-Sent him an e-mail
-He told me in April a MILPER message was coming out soon
-I cc'ed my reenlistment NCO on everything, as well as my Chain of Command
-I contact the LTC again, he then passed me off to the PDNCO for 35Q-the SFC on the MILPER message
-I called the SFC
-He told me of the prerequisites (including CSP-poly)
-I then talked to my S-2 NCOIC who then talked to the CI Agents on our post
-They then located the civilian who does CSPs for USAREUR (location undisclosed)
-I contacted the civilian, civ then sent up ALL of my e-mails regarding the MOS to quality control, since at the time there was no MOS that required a CSP prior to reclass. This was the first and only. I also had to get my S-2 to do a memo requesting the Poly for me.
-They then contacted INSCOM.
-INSCOM was "unaware" of this MOS
-They contacted the SFC PDNCO for 35Q and he provided more info and a copy of the MILPER draft to them(before it was released). He cc'ed the LTC MI branch chief.
-The LTC then got involved.
-After all was said and done I was approved to take the poly.
-I drove to (location undisclosed) 4 hours away to take CSP
-The results were sent back to the states
-The next day JPAS @ S2 reflected that I had "passed"
-They gave me a Memo and a copy of the JPAS record as verification for HRC.
-My reenlistment NCO sent it all up to Reenlistment at HRC.
-They then told him that their were other documents required, however the MILPER message did not say that. (BTW at this point I met ever prereq on the MILPER message, I was in my reenlistment window, eligible for reclass, etc)
-He then sent all of the traffic to the SFC PDNCO of 35Q
-He said there were no other docs required, and went and personally talked to Reenlistment @ HRC upstairs.
-They then fixed the situation on my "hotline" request (special request that retention has to enter into the Retain system, since the MOS was not in Retain when I started this process).
-I was then slotted in ATTRS for this course. (It still appears as the N6 ASI course JCAC)
-Now I just have to do the reenlistment ceremony and my retention has to upload the contract into Retain, and I am all done.

UPDATE: Had reenlistment ceremony and contract is done. Report date good.


This was a headache! BTW the last word I got was that there are only 20 slots for in service reclassification for FY 13 for the ENTIRE Army, and 170 slots for recruiting. In other words you have to hurry or you will be waiting until FY 14.
 
Good on you for "making it happen". Too many soldiers just sit on their laurels and let the Army do with them what they want. The Army has a ton of opportunities, some of them just take a bit of leg work.

If you put as much drive and motivation into your new job as you did this re-class process, I'm sure you will be a tremendous asset to the U.S. Army and the country in general.
 
Dude, you got a school slot. GRADUATE and then you will earn the "atta boy". So far, you navigated through some red tape.

I don't need any "atta boys", my credentials speak for themselves; I was merely trying to help others so they didn't have to go through the same headache.

BTW: I WILL graduate, it can't be any harder mentally for a computer nerd than SF is physically for a jock....:ROFLMAO:
 
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