Fatalities & many injured after two explosions in Manchester Arena at the end of Ariana Grande show

[Topkick]

Agreed. I was deployed early in the war on terror. At the time we hadn't learned yet that conventional armor/ infantry tactics where not the answer. We continuously increased our posture and continuously paid for it. A lesson which should have been learned from previous experiences in Guerilla warfare.

 

[Muppet]

People are afraid of the last thing. Before 9/11 it was white supremacist bombings(from OKC), and the original WTC. Terrorism was mostly relegated to our interests overseas.

To be honest I don't have any fear of a terrorist attack. I worry much more on the daily that one of my nephews will be shot at his school by some bullied nerd, or I will be shot in the hospital I work in by some disgruntled family member or former employee. Statistically that is still a small chance but a much more likely one.

Agreed so much. The dick head dope slinger popping rounds on the block, the car jacker, the dope fiend looking for an easy target for a few dime bags, worries me more than some terrorist but with that said, I have no doubt something big will happen.

M.

 

[SpitfireV]

Well I suppose it's all contextual isn't it? I would be less worried about a terrorist attack and then a stampede at a large public event than I would be a couple of drunk idiots picking a fight but I might be more worried at a government function about terrorists, potentially. It's all context.

When I say worry I really mean think about.

 

[ThunderHorse]

This is some wack shit: Tolerant Fellow on Twitter

 

[CQB]

Terrorists set the time & place. This is a new one, on exit. Searching the punters as go they in = threat diminished. On the way out = ??

There's almost never a lone wolf, there's always a network, it's a bit of a misnomer.

 

[racing_kitty]

Didn't Bader Meinhoff target exiting crowds back when they were a thing?

 

[Gunz]

Didn't Bader Meinhoff target exiting crowds back when they were a thing?

I'd almost forgotten about that gang of degenerate Maoist shitheads, AKA, The Red Army Faction. I don't recall their modus operandi but they hated cops, capitalists and US military bases. Now that you brought them up, I don't remember them being nearly as proficient at mass casualty attacks as our Jihadists.

The IRA is another splendid example and it struck me that they also set off a pretty big bomb--in Manchester, no less--in the mid-90s.

 

[Red Flag 1]

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[Ooh-Rah]

I think to cancel an entire world tour by the performer was a mistake, and put a win up on the coward's side of the scoreboard. The tour should go on in honor of those lost in this bombing. That's my $.02.

I agree, to a point. Grande is just a 22 year old disney girl...I imagine she is absolutely devastated that this happened at one of her shows, and don't see her as the "don't let the bastards win" type...I thought I had read that she will go back on tour sometime early June, she just wants to take a respectful break.

 

[DocIllinois]

Perhaps her handlers believe continuing the tour is somehow insensitive to the grieving process for the dead.

Or the authorities fear copycat acts. Or Ms. Grande is still too shaken to perform.

I agree with maintaining intestinal fortitude and continuing the
tour.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Or Ms. Grande is still too shaken to perform.

I am convinced it is this. She has lived an absolutely insulated life and likely never imagined anything could happen to her.

 

[racing_kitty]

The IRA is another splendid example and it struck me that they also set off a pretty big bomb--in Manchester, no less--in the mid-90s.

They did, indeed. Plus, what organization do you think assisted the jihadis in attaining technical proficiency in the exact art and subtle science that is potion, I mean bomb making.

 

[DocIllinois]

Ariana Grande has offered to pay for the victim's funerals.

A class move, IMO.

 

[racing_kitty]

Ariana Grande has offered to pay for the victim's funerals.

A class move, IMO.

Damn. Growing up is painful. That's touching, and I'm not being facetious about it. Class act on her part.

 

[Topkick]

Ariana Grande has offered to pay for the victim's funerals.

A class move, IMO.

Indeed a class move! Hopefully she doesn't live out her life feeling any guilt....

 

[TLDR20]

Has anyone seen the documentary on the Eagles of Death Metal following the Paris attack? Sometimes people need a break. If she wants to cancel her tour that is her prerogative. Hard to go out be happy and shake your ass when you may be super depressed.

 

[Poccington]

The IRA is another splendid example and it struck me that they also set off a pretty big bomb--in Manchester, no less--in the mid-90s.

The IRA called in a warning about 90 minutes before the bomb went off in Manchester, in order to allow civilians to be evacuated from the area. It was an attack aimed at Manchester's infrastructure and executed after the British government excluded Irish Republicans from peace talks a few days previous.

It's not comparable to some little British raised pissant who was given all the freedoms and liberties we in the West enjoy, who then deliberately targeted children while he used the excuse of religion to try disguise his own inadequacies. Scum like him will never win, of that much I'm certain.

 

[Gunz]

The IRA called in a warning about 90 minutes before the bomb went off in Manchester, in order to allow civilians to be evacuated from the area. It was an attack aimed at Manchester's infrastructure and executed after the British government excluded Irish Republicans from peace talks a few days previous.

It's not comparable to some little British raised pissant who was given all the freedoms and liberties we in the West enjoy, who then deliberately targeted children while he used the excuse of religion to try disguise his own inadequacies. Scum like him will never win, of that much I'm certain.

Thanks for the clarification. I remember the incident but didn't recall the circumstances. And I wasn't comparing, just noting that Manchester had been bombed before. Still, I'm not willing to give a pass to any person or militant organization that thinks detonating explosives in cities is a good idea. The IRA is not without innocent blood on its hands.

 

[Poccington]

Thanks for the clarification. I remember the incident but didn't recall the circumstances. And I wasn't comparing, just noting that Manchester had been bombed before. Still, I'm not willing to give a pass to any person or militant organization that thinks detonating explosives in cities is a good idea. The IRA is not without innocent blood on its hands.

I very much agree, just felt that it should be pointed out that both bombings had very different aims and stemmed from two very different situations.

Anyway, good to see British police and military fuck shit up since the bombing. They've been rounding up cunts all day, 7 arrested so far with hopefully more to follow. I don't think we can ever really guarantee stuff like this won't happen in the future but the intelligence and security services are doing stellar work to minimise the threat.

 

[SpitfireV]

The leaks coming out of the US are not helping.