Fatalities & many injured after two explosions in Manchester Arena at the end of Ariana Grande show

[SpongeBob*24]

The leaks coming out of the US are not helping.

Please explain this in depth when you get a chance, just curious...

Thanks!!

 

[ThunderHorse]

Please explain this in depth when you get a chance, just curious...

Thanks!!

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...chester-arena-bomb-materials-photos.html?_r=2

I'm guessing these were shared with the CIA and FBI...or that MI5 leaked it themselves.

 

[SpitfireV]

Please explain this in depth when you get a chance, just curious...

Thanks!!

Yeah mate.

Theresa May to tackle Donald Trump over Manchester bombing evidence

 

[SpitfireV]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...chester-arena-bomb-materials-photos.html?_r=2

I'm guessing these were shared with the CIA and FBI...or that MI5 leaked it themselves.

MI5 don't leak.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Although, I have to say, it's time the NYT thinks before it presses send. This shit is getting annoying.

 

[Kraut783]

Unfortunately, the media does not think of what the consequences could be from publishing information...as long as they are first.

Luckily this information wasn't classified Secret or above, just their version of FOUO or LES. You can't blast the bulletin on NIPR in this day and age....it's gonna get out.

 

[Il Duce]

I think reputable media - like the NY Times - thinks before they publish. They just have a very different standard from the government. I think it's always foolish for governments to want to have it both ways.

If you're the government absolutely do everything you can to find and plug leaks, as well as securing information in the first place. But, a government who complains or imagines the media should be protecting that information and plugging leaks for them I think that's foolish and counter-productive.

 

[Topkick]

If you're the government absolutely do everything you can to find and plug leaks, as well as securing information in the first place. But, a government who complains or imagines the media should be protecting that information and plugging leaks for them I think that's foolish and counter-productive.

Ahh, the old proactive vs reactive lesson. Agreed!

 

[Kraut783]

While I agree with your statement about the government angle. I still believe the media has some responsibility with the information they received and what they do with it.

 

[Il Duce]

While I agree with your statement about the government angle. I still believe the media has some responsibility with the information they received and what they do with it.

I agree, I think it's just one of those things about perspective. I think it's the same thing when arguing about a lot of topics. I think some tension in the way institutions look at things on the whole is good for a functioning republic. Doesn't mean the best result comes out every time - just that the system has some measure of pressure valves for dissent, speech, and expression.

 

[ThunderHorse]

I think reputable media - like the NY Times - thinks before they publish. They just have a very different standard from the government. I think it's always foolish for governments to want to have it both ways.

If you're the government absolutely do everything you can to find and plug leaks, as well as securing information in the first place. But, a government who complains or imagines the media should be protecting that information and plugging leaks for them I think that's foolish and counter-productive.

So publishing photos of an active crime scene totally makes sense, because we live in a click-bait world rather than pausing and saying...hey maybe we should just not do that.

Also, whoever leaked needs to be prosecuted ASAP.