GROW Navy! (err...go Navy? To the chow line anyway...)

[SkrewzLoose]

The worst part about this new instruction...Sailors who were destined for separation (due to 3 BCA or PRT failures in a 4 year time frame) but had not been separated yet were given the option to stay in. If they chose to stay, there prior failures were wiped clean and the new instruction only allows for 2 failures in a 3 year period. I saw this happen to 5-6 people right before our deployment and guess how much closer they are to being within standard... One of them even advanced in rank and reenlisted.
I could seriously rant on about this for days.

 

[AWP]

The military is getting to be "blood in, blood out." Once you're in the system, you aren't leaving.

Might as well be contractors...

 

[DA SWO]

The military is getting to be "blood in, blood out." Once you're in the system, you aren't leaving.

Might as well be contractors...

Contractors can be fired, sometimes it happens.

 

[AWP]

Contractors can be fired, sometimes it happens.

True, but post-2013 or so you have to REALLY work for it.

 

[DA SWO]

True, but post-2013 or so you have to REALLY work for it.

Problem is the folks being supported don't know (and contracting officers don't inform) that they can ask for someone to be removed.
I had a retired E-9, BAH Contractor (Senior E-9 in my career field) apologising to one of my Captains for going out of his lane (apologise or lose your job was the subtle message).

 

[AWP]

Problem is the folks being supported don't know (and contracting officers don't inform) that they can ask for someone to be removed.
I had a retired E-9, BAH Contractor (Senior E-9 in my career field) apologising to one of my Captains for going out of his lane (apologise or lose your job was the subtle message).

Great points.

(Things you're well aware of, but some of our members may not know)

The removal cuts both ways though. Some commanders don't know they have that power and others abuse it. Once the customer complains the contractor is usually done. Left to its own devices 99.9% of contracting companies out there will keep the guy/ gal because of money: they aren't paid unless a body's in the slot.

BAH...hands down one of the worst companies I've worked around.

We have a member here who was 100% in the right, but some GS-15's and an some O-5/ O-6's were embarrassed in front of a Major General, and he had to play the "apologize or go home" game. He managed both: his company apologized, but he resigned and the company found a way to pay him the rest of his contract (something like 4-6 weeks). Everyone knew they "why" behind his departure, but his company looked tough and the whiney-ass, childish others were mollified.

I could go on and on about the industry, pros and cons, etc. I'll say the industry gets a bad rep, but there are a bunch of villains to go around.

 

[Marauder06]

One of the many reasons I loved contractors is that I could fire the shit out of them if they weren't doing what we were paying them to do. Other reasons I loved them was because 1) they had deep subject matter expertise and 2) they were there longer than the +/- 4 months or so the green-suiters were.