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Immaculate Constellation
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Devildoc
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I know there are aliens on earth. I've seen the documentary, Transformers.
Wait...what? That's entertainment? Fiction? Nevermind.
Seriously, I don't know if there are or are not, but I do know there's been enough recorded, verifiable, sketchy shit to make me think there is.
Wait...what? That's entertainment? Fiction? Nevermind.
Seriously, I don't know if there are or are not, but I do know there's been enough recorded, verifiable, sketchy shit to make me think there is.
Topkick
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They’re afraid we can’t handle the truth. They’re afraid if they tell us the truth we will go nuts and start killing and raping each other.
But enough about the Clintons. What about the rest of us?
Yeah, I had to look that guy up. UFOlogist. One of those careers you can have and still be a bum.
My son is a mechanical engineer and a skeptic when it comes to this topic, and distance and the light speed limit are his arguments against. And we had a lively discussion about it yesterday when I showed him the Immaculate Constellation document.
My counter to the distance/speed argument is to consider a civilization 100,000 years in advance of us. Given the rate of evolution of our own knowledge over 100,000 years, a civilization that advanced may have found any number of solutions to problems that we think are inconceivable. Even Einstein made mistakes.
There may be interstellar shortcuts. If the Theory of Everything demands 11 or 12 dimensions for the math to work, then there may be 11 or 12 dimensions and inter dimensional travel.
Our knowledge base of the universe is a baby step, puny, compared to where we’ll be if we survive another 100k years.
It’s easy to be a skeptic when things seem impossible. One thousand years ago if you said humans would learn to fly faster than sound can travel, you would’ve been burned at the stake.
In the last 10 years alone we learned there are an infinite number of sexes and genders. I figure our breakthrough on dimensions 5 and 6 will happen any day now...
10k years ago we had just domesticated cows and goats, and were starting to brew beer.
We were still a few hundred years off from learning how to make copper tools.
10k years is an unfathomable amount of time for advancements.
Devildoc
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There was a physicist at Duke who in the '80s was asked to be on a committee to examine the shroud of Turin. Up to that point he had been an atheist and that event led him to become a Christian. He said scientists get siloed, yet as a mathematician he understood basics of probability is that probability is never zero or one, meaning that almost impossible is still possible. We talked a bit about aliens and all sorts of heady stuff and thought a lot of people in the science community approach it from the wrong perspective, thinking that if it cannot be proven that it must not be true rather than thinking it's possible and perhaps we haven't found the answers.
It is ironic that a lot of people think that science is settled yet the whole purpose of science isn't to be settled but to be tested and changed as evidence emerges.
True, there a Netflix series, Investigation Alien.
I tell my students that science is never settled.
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Many Christians do have a hard time reconciling aliens with their beliefs, which I have always found weird because, as a Christian, I fully accept the existence of other life forms beyond Earth. I mean, God is a creator—why wouldn’t He make other species and worlds with their own rules and ways of being? It doesn’t, to me, dismiss the Bible or anything else; it just means He created more things beyond us. After all, the Bible is about humanity and its story, not about whether life exists beyond and what they are like—although it does mention angels, which you can say are not human or from Earth.
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And on this… We agree 100%.
Devildoc
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The bible is filled with scripture than man cannot understand God: Job, Isaiah, Corinthians are books (bot not all the books) that speak to God's power and that we (humans) cannot fathom His power or His purpose.
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I can respect that. I think many people don’t have such a nuanced view.
Topkick
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I don't believe in aliens, but I do believe the government will spend and launder tax dollars funding research.
Funny thing is, Congress has only started talking about this now... while Dr. Travis Taylor and his crew at Skinwalker Ranch in Utah have been chasing these UAPs with a helicopter the poor thing had to dive into the top of the mesa and come out the other way (exaggeration mine 
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They fired rockets, lazers, flame throwers, flew hundreds of drones around a portal, scanned it with LiDar, and even tried to drill a hole right through its underground cocoon buried in the mesa.
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).They fired rockets, lazers, flame throwers, flew hundreds of drones around a portal, scanned it with LiDar, and even tried to drill a hole right through its underground cocoon buried in the mesa.
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