Information on 18x contract?

[BootBeater]

First things first, I just finished up four years as an 0311 in the USMC (looking around the forums it seems like I'm not alone). I'm about to start the GI Bill and give school a second chance, we'll see how that goes.

Now, I've always had a dream to be in SF (or any SOF unit). However, I want to know some more info about the 18x contract or prior service members transferring over. Is the 18x contract six years? I imagine it is since becoming a GB takes two years in itself. If I for some reason get dropped is there any contract claus I could have that would let me back into the civilian world?

The reason being, if and when I graduate school I will be 28, and the last thing I want is to be stuck in the regular infantry (again) for six years in my thirties (or any age). I answer is probably no but I figured I'd ask anyways.

Also, I wouldn't have to go to OSUT, would I?

 

[Ooh-Rah]

< snipping my foolish post >

 

[AWP]

Hey Marine. Post an intro - those with the power frown on future wanna-be-SOF's who can't follow simple instructions.

http://www.shadowspear.com/vb/forums/introductions.5/

We also frown upon people who aren't Mods moderating the forum.

 

[AWP]

First things first, I just finished up four years as an 0311 in the USMC (looking around the forums it seems like I'm not alone). I'm about to start the GI Bill and give school a second chance, we'll see how that goes.

Now, I've always had a dream to be in SF (or any SOF unit). However, I want to know some more info about the 18x contract or prior service members transferring over. Is the 18x contract six years? I imagine it is since becoming a GB takes two years in itself. If I for some reason get dropped is there any contract claus I could have that would let me back into the civilian world?

The reason being, if and when I graduate school I will be 28, and the last thing I want is to be stuck in the regular infantry (again) for six years in my thirties (or any age). I answer is probably no but I figured I'd ask anyways.

Also, I wouldn't have to go to OSUT, would I?

Per the Site Rules, please post an Introduction.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

We also frown upon people who aren't Mods moderating the forum.

Point taken. You won't have to correct again.

 

[BootBeater]

My bad, didn't see that rule. A mod can delete the thread if he wants since I'm not seeing an option to

 

[TLDR20]

Thread re-opened.

 

[reed11b]

If I for some reason get dropped is there any contract claus I could have that would let me back into the civilian world?

The reason being, if and when I graduate school I will be 28, and the last thing I want is to be stuck in the regular infantry (again) for six years in my thirties (or any age). I answer is probably no but I figured I'd ask anyways.

Also, I wouldn't have to go to OSUT, would I?

One: It's airborne infanty, not regular infantry.
Two: If you can't hang with the infantry or think you are to good for it, why in the world do you think you are cut out for SF?
Three: I don't like how you present yourself on this site one bit. I hope you change your attitude or get your delicate feelings hurt and go away
Reed

 

[BootBeater]

One: It's airborne infanty, not regular infantry.
Two: If you can't hang with the infantry or think you are to good for it, why in the world do you think you are cut out for SF?
Three: I don't like how you present yourself on this site one bit. I hope you change your attitude or get your delicate feelings hurt and go away
Reed

One: Sorry, not familiar with Army terms.
Two: Never said I couldn't "hang" with it nor did I say I'm "too good" for it. I said I have already done the conventional infantry and don't have much of an interest doing it again, especially at an older age.
Three: Already throwing insults? How exactly am I presenting myself on this forum? I admitted I made a mistake and didn't do the introduction but that was all I did wrong and made up for it, which is why this thread has reopened. I am also interested in how you came to a conclusion about my "attitude" and "delicate feelings" after reading four of my posts?

 

[Ooh-Rah]

...sigh...

"Think first to understand, then to be understood." - Stephen Covey

 

[TLDR20]

Let's everyone take a step back. Sheesh. Dude made a mistake, he has learned from it. Will a continued flaming do a bit of good? How about only the people qualified to answer a question about 18X post from now on?

First things first, I just finished up four years as an 0311 in the USMC (looking around the forums it seems like I'm not alone). I'm about to start the GI Bill and give school a second chance, we'll see how that goes.

Now, I've always had a dream to be in SF (or any SOF unit). However, I want to know some more info about the 18x contract or prior service members transferring over. Is the 18x contract six years? I imagine it is since becoming a GB takes two years in itself. If I for some reason get dropped is there any contract claus I could have that would let me back into the civilian world?

The reason being, if and when I graduate school I will be 28, and the last thing I want is to be stuck in the regular infantry (again) for six years in my thirties (or any age). I answer is probably no but I figured I'd ask anyways.

Also, I wouldn't have to go to OSUT, would I?

So now let's answer your questions, firstly there are many many former Marines in SF. Many. Some came over as 18X, others came over as 11B(infantry) then went to SFAS, and others assessed their way through the National Guard. You could probably(depending on rank) do any of these three things.

The contract length for 18X is 5 years, but you could do 6 if you wish. If you fail you will go back to being whatever MOs you joined as, but that would probably be airborne infantryman.

You would not have to go through OSUT, but Airborne school for sure.

 

[BootBeater]

Dude stay in the USMC, with your attitude you wouldn't make it in the Army Infantry...especially any Army SOF unit. Your situational awareness sucks, you may have served a couple of years and made a deployment, but you are nobody special on here, and poppin off to a well respected long term member on here is not going to get you anywhere. You join here looking for advice, information, etc, and step all over your dick and than think you are going talk that way to a well respected dude who has been a member of this forum longer than you served in the Marines?

Good luck hero...

Again, not sure what my attitude is. I made a mistake when I first posted, made up for it and I'm asking a genuine question. Yourself and Reed probably just saw it in a different light. That being said, I'm not "poppin off" or trying to intentionally insult a member here. However, you treat people how you want to be treated. He insulted me for no reason, saying I have an "attitude problem" and "delicate feelings". Just because he's been here longer and is older than me doesn't mean I have to take his negative comments.

Let's everyone take a step back. Sheesh. Dude made a mistake, he has learned from it. Will a continued flaming do a bit of good? How about only the people qualified to answer a question about 18X post from now on?


So now let's answer your questions, firstly there are many many former Marines in SF. Many. Some came over as 18X, others came over as 11B(infantry) then went to SFAS, and others assessed their way through the National Guard. You could probably(depending on rank) do any of these three things.

The contract length for 18X is 5 years, but you could do 6 if you wish. If you fail you will go back to being whatever MOs you joined as, but that would probably be airborne infantryman.

You would not have to go through OSUT, but Airborne school for sure.

Thank you. That's all I wanted to know

 

[SexyBeast]

Minor mistakes on both ends. I don't see any reason for anyone to feel insulted or get their panties in a bunch.

 

[DA SWO]

Again, look at the Guard; and talk to a recruiter to ensure they will take you.

SF is hard, and failure can determine which Army unit you end up in.
Cutbacks may convince the Army to cut you loose, or a sudden need for Airborne (or leg) Infantry dudes could result in a trip "down the street" to the 82nd, or worse yet, a trip to the 3rd ID.

I am not trying to discourage you, but go in with your eyes open, and understand what quitting entails.

 

[AWP]

One thing about the Guard, do NOT use it as a back door to Active Duty. That is rather frowned upon and commanders/ states do not have to release you.

 

[pardus]

Again, not sure what my attitude is. I made a mistake when I first posted, made up for it and I'm asking a genuine question. Yourself and Reed probably just saw it in a different light. That being said, I'm not "poppin off" or trying to intentionally insult a member here. However, you treat people how you want to be treated. He insulted me for no reason, saying I have an "attitude problem" and "delicate feelings". Just because he's been here longer and is older than me doesn't mean I have to take his negative comments.

What part of "everybody" don't you understand? It has been addressed so shut up about it.

 

[BootBeater]

Again, look at the Guard; and talk to a recruiter to ensure they will take you.

SF is hard, and failure can determine which Army unit you end up in.
Cutbacks may convince the Army to cut you loose, or a sudden need for Airborne (or leg) Infantry dudes could result in a trip "down the street" to the 82nd, or worse yet, a trip to the 3rd ID.

I am not trying to discourage you, but go in with your eyes open, and understand what quitting entails.

What's bad about the 3rd ID?

 

[AWP]

What's bad about the 3rd ID?

The Army's Mech and Armor units don't have the best reputation. Lots of chickenshit details, poor leadership, criminal elements within the ranks....3rd ID, 4th ID, and 1st Cav aren't well thought of by many on this board or many whom I've met. You're looking at units where individuals may (and are) good, but the leadership is lacking and everything rolls downhill from there.

The leadership in those units is broken.

 

[BootBeater]

The Army's Mech and Armor units don't have the best reputation. Lots of chickenshit details, poor leadership, criminal elements within the ranks....3rd ID, 4th ID, and 1st Cav aren't well thought of by many on this board or many whom I've met. You're looking at units where individuals may (and are) good, but the leadership is lacking and everything rolls downhill from there.

The leadership in those units is broken.

Sounds a lot like the Marine Corps infantry at times.

 

[pardus]

I'm digging the help a new smart ass out while down talking the Army armor div's.

So much for joining a tight nitch forum and being humble. Meanwhile never mind those guys who have been around for years.

You've already been told about this BS once today. Shut up or stay away if you can't.