Iraq and ISIS Discussion

SOTGWarrior said:
...It amazed me at the level of education many of them had, including PhD's from Stanford, Princeton, and Oxford....
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We used to call the University of South Florida "Terrorist U" because of Sami Al Arian (since deported) and all the Islamic engineering students for whom he helped get visas. And just 20 minutes down the road from CENTCOM/SOCOM...
 
Ha. Interestingly Facebook regards this story as "spam". You have to click an override screen to either read or repost it.

http://news.yahoo.com/saudi-king-warns-west-jihadists-next-target-093701543.html

"If we ignore them, I am sure they will reach Europe in a month and America in another month," he said in remarks quoted on Saturday by Asharq al-Awsat daily and Saudi-backed Al-Arabiya television station.

"Terrorism knows no border and its danger could affect several countries outside the Middle East," said the king who was speaking at a welcoming ceremony on Friday for new ambassadors, including a new envoy from Saudi ally the United States.
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Thanks for the advice, King Abdullah. Sadly, we have no strategy. :(
 
Chopstick said:
Sadly, we have no strategy. :(
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Well of course. The media is more concerned with dissecting what message the President's tan suit conveyed as opposed to talking about why we don't have a strategy. So all President Obama has to do next time is wear a dark suit and everything will be fine. "We still don't have a strategy, Bob. However, the President did show how seriously he is taking this by showing up in a black, tailored, Armani suit. Back to you." "Thanks Jill...Ooops, Jill just got dragged off camera by several turbaned men waving ISIS flags. As she was saying, President Obama sent a strong message to ISIS today by wearing a suit that almost seemed to swallow the light around it. We now turn to our national security correspondent for an interpretation on what this means for the embattled Iraqi and Syrian citizens in the coming months."
 
The only way to deal with them is to terminate them from existence. Them and anyone that associates with them. We don't need to reason with them or try to deal with them in any way...we simply need to exterminate them since that is all they understand.

They can't and won't be dealt with on any level of reasonableness...they are simply thugs who prey upon the weak and kill them with impunity.

I still find it funny that people feel they can be dealt with as though they are a government.
 
Agoge said:
The only way to deal with them is to terminate them from existence. Them and anyone that associates with them. We don't need to reason with them or try to deal with them in any way...we simply need to exterminate them since that is all they understand.

They can't and won't be dealt with on any level of reasonableness...they are simply thugs who prey upon the weak and kill them with impunity.

I still find it funny that people feel they can be dealt with as though they are a government.
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I agree. Eliminate them all. Walk boots on the ground from one end to the other and kill them all.
 
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/art...ts-show-beheading-U-S-journalist?sf30567509=1

  • BEIRUT — An Internet video posted online Tuesday purported to show the beheading of U.S. journalist Steven Sotloff by the Islamic State group, which called it retribution for continued U.S. airstrikes in Iraq.

Sotloff, 31, who freelanced for Time and Foreign Policy magazines, had last been seen in Syrian in August 2013 until he appeared in a video released online last month by the Islamic State group that showed the beheading of fellow American journalist James Foley.

Dressed in an orange jumpsuit against the backdrop of an arid Syrian landscape, Sotloff was threatened in that video with death unless the U.S. stopped airstrikes on the group in Iraq.

In the video distributed Tuesday and entitled “A Second Message to America,” Sotloff appears in a similar jumpsuit before he was purportedly beheaded by an Islamic State fighter.

The Associated Press could not immediately verify the video’s authenticity. The SITE Intelligence Group, a U.S. terrorism watchdog, first reported about the video’s existence.

The fighter who beheads Sotloff in the video called it retribution for Obama’s continued airstrikes against the group in Iraq.

“I’m back, Obama, and I’m back because of your arrogant foreign policy towards the Islamic State ... despite our serious warnings,” the fighter said.

At the end of the video, he threatened to kill a third captive, a Briton, David Cathorne Haines.

Sotloff’s mother had pleaded for his release last week in a video directed at the Islamic State group.

Addressing the leader of the Islamic State group by name, Shirley Sotloff said in a video her son was “an innocent journalist” who shouldn’t pay for U.S. government actions in the Middle East over which he has no control.

White House press secretary Josh Earnest said he wasn’t immediately aware of the purported Sotloff video and wasn’t in a position to confirm its authenticity.

“This is something that the administration has obviously been watching very carefully,” Earnest said. “Our thoughts and prayers first and foremost are with Mr. Sotloff and Mr. Sotloff’s family and those who worked with him.”

A man who answered a phone listed in the name of Sotloff’s sister hung up when called by the AP.
 
SOTGWarrior said:
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/art...ts-show-beheading-U-S-journalist?sf30567509=1

  • BEIRUT — An Internet video posted online Tuesday purported to show the beheading of U.S. journalist Steven Sotloff by the Islamic State group, which called it retribution for continued U.S. airstrikes in Iraq.

Sotloff, 31, who freelanced for Time and Foreign Policy magazines, had last been seen in Syrian in August 2013 until he appeared in a video released online last month by the Islamic State group that showed the beheading of fellow American journalist James Foley.

Dressed in an orange jumpsuit against the backdrop of an arid Syrian landscape, Sotloff was threatened in that video with death unless the U.S. stopped airstrikes on the group in Iraq.

In the video distributed Tuesday and entitled “A Second Message to America,” Sotloff appears in a similar jumpsuit before he was purportedly beheaded by an Islamic State fighter.

The Associated Press could not immediately verify the video’s authenticity. The SITE Intelligence Group, a U.S. terrorism watchdog, first reported about the video’s existence.

The fighter who beheads Sotloff in the video called it retribution for Obama’s continued airstrikes against the group in Iraq.

“I’m back, Obama, and I’m back because of your arrogant foreign policy towards the Islamic State ... despite our serious warnings,” the fighter said.

At the end of the video, he threatened to kill a third captive, a Briton, David Cathorne Haines.

Sotloff’s mother had pleaded for his release last week in a video directed at the Islamic State group.

*Addressing the leader of the Islamic State group by name, Shirley Sotloff said in a video her son was “an innocent journalist” who shouldn’t pay for U.S. government actions in the Middle East over which he has no control.

**White House press secretary Josh Earnest said he wasn’t immediately aware of the purported Sotloff video and wasn’t in a position to confirm its authenticity.

“This is something that the administration has obviously been watching very carefully,” Earnest said. “Our thoughts and prayers first and foremost are with Mr. Sotloff and Mr. Sotloff’s family and those who worked with him.”

***A man who answered a phone listed in the name of Sotloff’s sister hung up when called by the AP.
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Same asshole that beheaded Foley I think. That cunt has it coming...

*US Govt actions need to be paid for?

**Clearly you idiots weren't "watching very carefully" of you would know this before the mass media you moron.

***Fucking vultures, WTF do they expect when they call someone in these circumstances?!
 
I think that's correct, they are against anyone who they nominate as different. By naming the US it's part of the strategy to attempt to widen the conflict which will include more US involvement.
 
CQB said:
I think that's correct, they are against anyone who they nominate as different. By naming the US it's part of the strategy to attempt to widen the conflict which will include more US involvement.
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Doesn't mean they aren't at war with the U.S. though. Just means they are seeking legitimacy by declaring themselves a state at war. If the WH's greatest issue right now is trying to make sure no one sees these monsters as a legitimate state government then the administration is in far worse trouble than even I think. They are losing their own credibility by playing these legal games while announcing they have no strategy.
 
Yep, US foreign policy does seem to be in the doldrums. If you think all the ISIL have is to say, "Don't shoot or we'll kill another one!" they don't have much. To me it proves whatever is in place, (even by accident or default) looks to work.
I'm of the opinion that they should sort it out themselves. Aren't you guys getting tired of being asked by the world to bail everyone out?
Also it seems there are successes & imagine if the US did the following, a small forest would need to be cut down to calm left wing angst.

http://www.todayszaman.com/national_pkk-raid-on-isil-in-turkey-reflects-govts-weakness_357510.html

...and don't the girls love it.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/09/02/isis-fighters-terrified-death-at-hands-female-pkk-warriors/
 
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