Israel

[AWP]

Egypt: Could you guys please stop killing each other so we can discuss this?
Israel: No problem. We'll halt the strikes.
Hamas: Have some rockets.
Israel: Okay, back to bombing.

We're not talking concessions, we're talking about opening the border crossings again and negotiations. Hamas won't even do that? Flush those turds.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/15/world/meast/mideast-crisis/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

 

[Marauder06]

I left Israel right before the latest shenanigans started. The IDF will typically do what they call a "roof knock" with a noisemaker before they go all kinetic over someone's house. That usually gives civilians (and bad guys) time to get out but not enough time to evacuate comms/heavy weapons etc. before the roof comes down.

 

[comrade-z]

To inject some humor relevant to the current situation.....
http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/07/1...-dominos-pizza-facebook-page-hilarity-ensues/

 

[CQB]

I'm thinking it's more like cricket.

Reuters AAP: Israel won the toss and elected to bat. Hamas opened the bowling with some fiery fast bowling from the Red Sea end of the ground. Despite the Hamas fast bowlers doing their best, Israel took up the challenge & smashed boundaries all afternoon. Play finished with the score at 3 for 205 in Israels favour after umpire Kerry halted play due to bad light.

 

[CQB]

Hey LL, you like cricket? Kewl.

 

[comrade-z]

And the ground invasion begins - stated targets include smuggling infrastructure. Hopefully demolishing said tunnels is all that happens, and actual fighting is kept to a minimum.

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2014/07/17/israel_launches_ground_invasion_in_gaza

 

[DA SWO]

And the ground invasion begins - stated targets include smuggling infrastructure. Hopefully demolishing said tunnels is all that happens, and actual fighting is kept to a minimum.

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2014/07/17/israel_launches_ground_invasion_in_gaza

I hope they send Hamas and crew back 15-20 years; too the Stone Age!

 

[comrade-z]

I hope they send Hamas and crew back 15-20 years; too the Stone Age!

Agreed on that - I had mostly just meant a lack of bloodshed on Israel's part. Also, I feel I posted too soon as thinking about it a bit more, from what I've learned from Israelis it seems that ground fighting means better odds (what I've heard from Israelis) of getting more Hamas personnel, and I can't really disagree with the benefits of that. So far it also seems like everyone I know over there is supportive of the decision, too.

 

[Gunz]

John Kerry could not negotiate his ass out of a paper bag. When he goes up against guys like Putin and Netanyahu, they make him their b*tch every time. I enjoy it when Israel ignores all the lightweight Western politicians who preach restraint, who claim to be Israel's staunch supporters but who do everything they can to empower Israel's enemies in their fear of antagonizing the dudes with the oil. I remember when Bibi Netanyahu was a Likud party leader during the Gulf War, I remember his testimony to Congress after 9/11. The Man knows jihad. I think we forgot everything he told us about 15 minutes after he left the room.

 

[JHD]

Civilian deaths in Gaza, some observations.
"We phone up our enemies and tell them that we are going to blow up the building, we throw non-explosive munitions, and that is a sign they are supposed to vacate the building. Only once we have seen them vacate the building—and we are talking about [hitting] command and control places and not the terrorists themselves—then we hit."


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...look_at_the_death_toll_israel_s_warnings.html

Also, saw this on Facebook...


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[Poccington]

Also, saw this on Facebook...


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It left out the boxes for "Opened border crossings" and "Don't fire shells at kids on a beach" but then again, they wouldn't be able to tick those boxes.

Both sides in the conflict are led by utter fucking gimps. Anyone who acts like either side are blameless or "the good guys" are off their heads.

 

[hoepoe]

It left out the boxes for "Opened border crossings" and "Don't fire shells at kids on a beach" but then again, they wouldn't be able to tick those boxes.

Both sides in the conflict are led by utter fucking gimps. Anyone who acts like either side are blameless or "the good guys" are off their heads.

Actually, you're a fucking gimp. get your facts right or shut the fuck up.

 

[Poccington]

Wowsers.

I'm sure your opinion isn't remotely biased. If you think Israel is blameless in the entire Israel/Palestinian situation, I applaud your ability to breathe while your head is stuck in the sand.

 

[Marine0311]

Actually, you're a fucking gimp. get your facts right or shut the fuck up.

Check your fire @hoepoe . If you have a problem take it to PM with that member or me.

 

[Marine0311]

Wowsers.

I'm sure your opinion isn't remotely biased. If you think Israel is blameless in the entire Israel/Palestinian situation, I applaud your ability to breathe while your head is stuck in the sand.

..and you check your fire also @Poccington .

 

[hoepoe]

Wowsers.

I'm sure your opinion isn't remotely biased. If you think Israel is blameless in the entire Israel/Palestinian situation, I applaud your ability to breathe while your head is stuck in the sand.

I just know the facts as opposed to being fed them by a bias press in the UK. Even basic knowledge would show you that one border is with Israel and the other with Egypt. Guess who's letting in aid and who's not? Here's a hint, it's not Egypt..war is a bitch and loss of innocents life is deeply regrettable but I will not be apologist to you or anyone else that we have less losses than the enemy.

 

[hoepoe]

Check your fire @hoepoe . If you have a problem take it to PM with that member or me.

Understood.

 

[Poccington]

I just know the facts as opposed to being fed them by a bias press in the UK. Even basic knowledge would show you that one border is with Israel and the other with Egypt. Guess who's letting in aid and who's not? Here's a hint, it's not Egypt..war is a bitch and loss of innocents life is deeply regrettable but I will not be apologist to you or anyone else that we have less losses than the enemy.

I'm aware of the borders thanks. I'm not arguing about the difference in losses, nor am I a Palestinian apologist. I'm very much an advocate of the "If you don't want Israel to attack you, don't fire rockets at Israel" train of thought. I also think a lot of the time Israel do very little to help the situation.

I merely believe both sides should shoulder the blame for the situation there. There's no "good guys", pics released by the IDF like the one above are nothing more than propoganda and don't have any place in reality, much the same as Hamas painting themselves as brave freedom fighters on their last legs, while trying to slip through tunnels into Israel.

 

[hoepoe]

I'm aware of the borders thanks. I'm not arguing about the difference in losses, nor am I a Palestinian apologist. I'm very much an advocate of the "If you don't want Israel to attack you, don't fire rockets at Israel" train of thought. I also think a lot of the time Israel do very little to help the situation.

I merely believe both sides should shoulder the blame for the situation there. There's no "good guys", pics released by the IDF like the one above are nothing more than propoganda and don't have any place in reality, much the same as Hamas painting themselves as brave freedom fighters on their last legs, while trying to slip through tunnels into Israel.

You're still ignorant. I will not try educate you as you seem to 'already know it all". Of course there's propaganda and there's the truth, we, the GOOD GUYS have both, the HAMAS only propaganda. I've been there, have you?

 

[DA SWO]

I'm aware of the borders thanks. I'm not arguing about the difference in losses, nor am I a Palestinian apologist. I'm very much an advocate of the "If you don't want Israel to attack you, don't fire rockets at Israel" train of thought. I also think a lot of the time Israel do very little to help the situation.

I merely believe both sides should shoulder the blame for the situation there. There's no "good guys", pics released by the IDF like the one above are nothing more than propoganda and don't have any place in reality, much the same as Hamas painting themselves as brave freedom fighters on their last legs, while trying to slip through tunnels into Israel.

Was releasing the video propaganda, or in response to a hamas claim that they are targeting civilians?

I personally hope Hamas gets it's assed kicked, and that goes for their enablers.