Security forces

[Rbc]

I am considering a career in the military and as such I am trying to find out more. So whith that being said I am considering the security forces in the air force and I have heard everything from its the worst job to its the best thing I've ever did so can anyone tell me more about the job specifically how assig entered are given out

 

[Rbc]

All of what I've seen seems contradictory.

 

[AWP]

I am considering a career in the military and as such I am trying to find out more. So whith that being said I am considering the security forces in the air force and I have heard everything from its the worst job to its the best thing I've ever did so can anyone tell me more about the job specifically how assig entered are given out

Use the search feature and enter afsf. You should see a number of results discussing our thoughts on the careerfield. Short version: there may be some good guys and gals in the field, but I'd avoid it like the plague.

 

[Rbc]

I guess I didn't search correctly enough apparently .Also one last thing this is more curiosity than anything but I've scoured the Web and haven't much on the DAGRE program

 

[Grey]

If you would like I could put you in touch with someone serving in Security Forces who could give you a more educated opinion but as FF said the search function is your best friend. From what I have seen and heard I wouldn't exactly suggest it to anyone but as with any job it has pros and cons that could make you sway either way. While in a lower rank you will spend many hours at the gate or driving around the flight line and I have yet to meet a Security Forces person who was excited about that. However, there are opportunities later on that may seem interesting and worth the wait such as Military Dog Handler or Combat Arms and they are always in need of those guys.

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

Glorified security guards, who believe they are MP's and Infantry, with an ego that they're the most elite unit in the world. But that's just been my experience with them, I'm sure they have good people who are very professional, I just haven't met any yet.

 

[Rbc]

If you would like I could put you in touch with someone serving in Security Forces who could give you a more educated opinion but as FF said the search function is your best friend. From what I have seen and heard I wouldn't exactly suggest it to anyone but as with any job it has pros and cons that could make you sway either way. While in a lower rank you will spend many hours at the gate or driving around the flight line and I have yet to meet a Security Forces person who was excited about that. However, there are opportunities later on that may seem interesting and worth the wait such as Military Dog Handler or Combat Arms and they are always in need of those guys.

If it's possible I would greatly appreciate it.

 

[Rbc]

Glorified security guards, who believe they are MP's and Infantry, with an ego that they're the most elite unit in the world. But that's just been my experience with them, I'm sure they have good people who are very professional, I just haven't met any yet.

May be the people you met weren't in the best of moods for lack of a better word

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

May be the people you met weren't in the best of moods for lack of a better word

I've actually met quite a few, trained quite a few, one who's a good friend, who branched to Infantry in the NG years later. His opinion was about the same, and no I didn't develop my opinion based on a few bad run-ins with grumpy Airmen.

 

[Rbc]

I've actually met quite a few, trained quite a few, one who's a good friend, who branched to Infantry in the NG years later. His opinion was about the same, and no I didn't develop my opinion based on a few bad run-ins with grumpy Airmen.

I don't know i tend to try to look on the brighter side of things so I figured maybet that was the case

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

No worries, good luck to you and your aspirations.

 

[Gunz]

My personal opinion mirrors some of the other statements here, but Security Forces might be right for you. Your bright side is youthful optimism, that's a great thing to have. While it lasts.

 

[Grey]

If it's possible I would greatly appreciate it.

I'll look into it for you. If there are any other Air Force specific questions that you can't seem to get answered through research go ahead and shoot me a message.

 

[DA SWO]

How low of an ASVAB score do you have, because AFSF isn't filled with rocket scientists.
Great field if you want to cross-train into another career field after 4-6 years in.
I had some great guys who were former cops, and they were glad that they were FORMER Cops.
DAGRE is AFSOC Specific, which means your odds of getting Hurlburt Field, or Cannon AFB are very low.

 

[blackcoffee]

Glorified security guards, who believe they are MP's and Infantry, with an ego that they're the most elite unit in the world. But that's just been my experience with them, I'm sure they have good people who are very professional, I just haven't met any yet.

Unfortunately accurate statement. I was with the 820th BDG, the so called "premier" Security Forces Group, and believe me they had some egos. At the end of the day you should ask yourself what your goal is, considering both professional and personal. I'm assuming since you are asking here maybe your aspirations in life are not limited to checking IDs in the blistering heat/freezing cold.

Ultimately wherever you go your friends that you will make will either make or break it. If you have any questions feel free to contact me.

 

[Rbc]

How low of an ASVAB score do you have, because AFSF isn't filled with rocket scientists.
Great field if you want to cross-train into another career field after 4-6 years in.
I had some great guys who were former cops, and they were glad that they were FORMER Cops.
DAGRE is AFSOC Specific, which means your odds of getting Hurlburt Field, or Cannon AFB are very low.

Well I'm just trying to get informed so guess it's a college student's optimism

 

[Ooh-Rah]

@Rbc , did you take the advice of @Freefalling above really search out this forum on the topic? I did just now, and I was left with a pretty strong opinion of the role, both from those who did the job, and those who interacted with them.

What is driving you to this job, your recruiter? For what it's worth, think of your recruiter as a salesperson - he's got a quota to fill, which include specific jobs. You have the advantage of youth, but the disadvantage of experience and cynicism.

Where do you want to be in the Air Force 5 years from now? How about goals as a civilian after a 4 year hitch? What is your end game? There are MANY on this board who wish they could "do it all over again", me included. I did not have near the resources available to you when I enlisted in 1989, just a recruiter pushing me to go to MEP's and family trying to talk me out of it.

I'll not be so bold as to offer you advice either way, but will leave you with habit #2 of Steven Covey's 7 Habits:

 

[Rbc]

@Rbc , did you take the advice of @Freefalling above really search out this forum on the topic? I did just now, and I was left with a pretty strong opinion of the role, both from those who did the job, and those who interacted with them.

What is driving you to this job, your recruiter? For what it's worth, think of your recruiter as a salesperson - he's got a quota to fill, which include specific jobs. You have the advantage of youth, but the disadvantage of experience and cynicism.

Where do you want to be in the Air Force 5 years from now? How about goals as a civilian after a 4 year hitch? What is your end game? There are MANY on this board who wish they could "do it all over again", me included. I did not have near the resources available to you when I enlisted in 1989, just a recruiter pushing me to go to MEP's and family trying to talk me out of it.

I'll not be so bold as to offer you advice either way, but will leave you with habit #2 of Steven Covey's 7 Habits:

View attachment 14413

November there is no recruiter pushing me I am an idealist and a first generation immigrant so I'm motivated by a genuine sense of duty and lover for this country also I want to become a federal agent and have very rewarding career in the field and it's my opinion that the military gives me an opportunity to accomplish so much in that field and in life. So maybe it's naive will it probably is but it's what want for my life.

 

[104TN]

...I want to become a federal agent...

Without trying to derail this thread too much, if your long term goal is to become a special agent it may be in your best interest to consider what value your military job will have when competing for one of a limited number of special agent (SA) positions.

For Fiscal Year 2016, the FBI advertised they're looking applicants with the following backgrounds and expertise for SA positions (copied from Current FBI Needs | FBI JOBS):

• Certified Public Accountants (CPAs)
• Attorneys (Prosecutor, Defense)
• IT Network Administrators, Intrusions
• Engineers
• Detectives
• Military (specifically Special Forces, Explosives, WMD, and Intelligence experts)
• Scientists (Lab Experience)
• Foreign Language(s) speakers (particularly Spanish, Chinese, Korean, Arabic, Urdu, Pashtu, Punjabi, Russian and Farsi)
• Pilots (Helicopter, Fixed-Wing)
• *Diversified (all other backgrounds or skills not specified above)

You can gain experience in nearly all of these fields in the military. Military service is great, but military service with relevant experience coupled with the degree that Tuition Assistance/your GI Bill will help you obtain will make you a more attractive SA candidate later on. There's no reason your time in the military can't be an opportunity to set yourself up for future success. Best of luck.

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

Without trying to derail this thread too much, if your long term goal is to become a special agent it may be in your best interest to consider what value your military job will have when competing for one of a limited number of special agent (SA) positions.

For Fiscal Year 2016, the FBI advertised they're looking applicants with the following backgrounds and expertise for SA positions (copied from Current FBI Needs | FBI JOBS):

• Certified Public Accountants (CPAs)
• Attorneys (Prosecutor, Defense)
• IT Network Administrators, Intrusions
• Engineers
• Detectives
• Military (specifically Special Forces, Explosives, WMD, and Intelligence experts)
• Scientists (Lab Experience)
• Foreign Language(s) speakers (particularly Spanish, Chinese, Korean, Arabic, Urdu, Pashtu, Punjabi, Russian and Farsi)
• Pilots (Helicopter, Fixed-Wing)
• *Diversified (all other backgrounds or skills not specified above)

You can gain experience in nearly all of these fields in the military. Military service is great, but military service with relevant experience coupled with the degree that Tuition Assistance/your GI Bill will help you obtain will make you a more attractive SA candidate later on. There's no reason your time in the military can't be an opportunity to set yourself up for future success. Best of luck.

Great post, I remember talking with a few CID agents about what they looked for and what they wanted when recruiting. As we all thought you had to be an MP for x many years, top performers, etc. They very few MP's make it into CID, and that they were looking for accounting and IT specialists. The expression was something of we can train the LE part to just about anyone, the specialist skills is harder, takes longer and in most demand. CID is one of the few Army units that professionalism was 100%.