Sergeant major of Parris Island recruit depot resigns following altercation with protester

lindy said:
He resigned as SEL but he's still a SGM, right? How did he throw away his career? He's still going to retire as an E-9. Hell, I'd rather fight alongside him than the other dipshit.
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I've read about a few of the Sergeant Major's combat exploits. For the sounds if it, he's all about his Marines, as it should be.
 
The SGM achieved the highest rank he could and has well over 20 years. He's not being demoted or being subject to any other disciplinary action. That's a good thing. He's maxed out. He may not have planned to retire this week but the day was coming. I'm sure he will continue to serve this country in some capacity after his retirement. Id bet all the money in my pocket on that. I wouldn't have taken the issue where he did... But I certainly understand.
 
He simply let his emotions get the best of him...it happens everyday to thousands of people. I wish him the very best in his future endeavors.
 
From a vetted source close to the matter:

The protestor was a former DI, and Marine VETERAN who had his Drill Instructor MOS and campaign cover stripped from him for misconduct. Dude was a piece of shit, and SGTMAJ had a conversation with this guy before the protest ASKING him not to wear the campaign cover. He drove out the gate, saw him wearing it, and just went condition black. Every man has his breaking point. I don't really understand it, but I do know a lot of Drill Instructors and they are all extremely protective of the community. It is what it is. SGTMAJ Archie has had a very distinguished career and every Marine I know of who served with him has nothing but praise for the man. So he has to retire a little earlier than planned. Nothing lost, this will all be forgotten in two months anyway.
 
dmcgill said:
From a vetted source close to the matter:

The protestor was a former DI, and Marine VETERAN who had his Drill Instructor MOS and campaign cover stripped from him for misconduct. Dude was a piece of shit, and SGTMAJ had a conversation with this guy before the protest ASKING him not to wear the campaign cover. He drove out the gate, saw him wearing it, and just went condition black. Every man has his breaking point. I don't really understand it, but I do know a lot of Drill Instructors and they are all extremely protective of the community. It is what it is. SGTMAJ Archie has had a very distinguished career and every Marine I know of who served with him has nothing but praise for the man. So he has to retire a little earlier than planned. Nothing lost, this will all be forgotten in two months anyway.
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Interesting!
 
pardus said:
Interesting!
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Concur. I had no idea that the two had talked about this before the filmed encounter. I wonder what agenda the civillian had running? Do these two have a long running history? The SGM was clearly being taunted by the civillian who was hiding behind, "you can't do anything to me now" shield. In this climate of political correctness, I can't help but come away with the thought that they were both wrong. My heart comes down on the side of the SGM.
 
Ooh-Rah1069 said:
<Snip)...I would have liked to see the beginning of the video, not just the part where they are yelling at each other but what caused the escalation. I'm suspicious of the other man's motives when he makes a point of asking "someone" if they got everything on film...this guy was trained how to push someone's buttons, wonder what was going on in the Sgt. Major's world that day that allowed him to lose his bearing so easily.
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Never quoted myself within a thread before, but I am now even more suspicious of this Marine's agenda. Based on this new info, it would seem he might have a history with Sgt. Major Archie?
 
Considering the Commandant's and Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps' conduct and quotes over the last year or so, this shouldn't be a blip on the radar.
 
Found an update on this story. The Sgt. Major has retired and offers more detail of his version of the incident:

Five months after the incident, Archie discussed the altercation and its aftermath with Marine Corps Times in his first public statements since stepping down from his post. Freshly retired from the Marine Corps, he said there’s far more to his story than what the video captured — including things he felt leaders overlooked before offering him an ultimatum regarding his career.

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/article/20141027/NEWS/310270023/-My-career-was-defaced-
 
Ooh-Rah said:
Found an update on this story. The Sgt. Major has retired and offers more detail of his version of the incident:

Five months after the incident, Archie discussed the altercation and its aftermath with Marine Corps Times in his first public statements since stepping down from his post. Freshly retired from the Marine Corps, he said there’s far more to his story than what the video captured — including things he felt leaders overlooked before offering him an ultimatum regarding his career.

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/article/20141027/NEWS/310270023/-My-career-was-defaced-
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Yeah he was in a pretty bad spot, just having got back from his dad's funeral and dealing with the suicide of a DI. This guy definitely caught him at the wrong time. At least he's not bitter about it though.
 
dmcgill said:
Yeah he was in a pretty bad spot, just having got back from his dad's funeral and dealing with the suicide of a DI. This guy definitely caught him at the wrong time. At least he's not bitter about it though.
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Sounds to me as if the SgtMaj instigated the confrontation by driving out to the front gate with the express intention of confronting the protestor.

I've seen too many Marines make stupid decisions, and get it broken off in their ass by multiple battalion sergeants major, to have much sympathy.
 
0699 said:
Sounds to me as if the SgtMaj instigated the confrontation by driving out to the front gate with the express intention of confronting the protestor.
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I would disagree. He knew he was going to be there protesting, as they had a conversation about it previously. He was, however, under the impression that he had agreed not to wear the campaign cover.
 
dmcgill said:
I would disagree. He knew he was going to be there protesting, as they had a conversation about it previously. He was, however, under the impression that he had agreed not to wear the campaign cover.
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No, the SGM has NO authority over what a civi does. So the SGM is wrong. Much as I think the cunt wearing the DI's hat is wrong.
 
Sounds like they both got into the gutter and "lost it". If the Sgt. Major felt the issue was discussed and over after talking with him on the phone, then he should have just left it alone and understood that the former Marine obviously didn't have enough pride or honor to honor his own word and not wear that cover...if that was in fact discussed.

Wearing that cover really didn't have any bearing on his purpose for protesting anyway. He could have honored his word and not wore the cover and still got his message across.
 
I don't have a disagreement with either.

The protester did what he felt was right.

The SgtMaj did what he felt was right. Way too many cowards in leadership roles.

Just happens that those 2 paths crossed.

Should of given those 2 boxing gloves or pugil sticks and charge admission. And have a beer afterwards.
 

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