SF training for Scouts?

[Teufel]

That is all true but the bulk of combat advising in OEF was done by conventional forces both as battlespace owners and embedded training teams. In the earlier stages of the war no one outside of the Special Forces was prepared to do this and this created myriad issues across the board. Maybe the Army is looking at these lessons and trying to prepare themselves for future conflicts.

 

[goon175]

I don't think we can say that CF's advising afghans has been an overwhelming success at this point.

 

[Atlas]

Found this on FB

 

[x SF med]

Listening is another important skill set.

Yes... but crazy glue is counter productive in the auditory canal... buy them all sets of magic ears?

 

[Marauder06]

Hm, I think I have inappropriate clipart for this thread. Stand by.

 

[Ranger Psych]

I have not yet begun to throw inappropriate clipart around. I'll stick to profanity in lieu of graphical offensiveness. Regardless of how entertaining it would be to make a flow chart as to how the mastermind behind the topic should fornicate with foreign objects.

 

[Marauder06]

 

[AWP]

Well, I guess I can't wear that shirt in public again...

 

[Brian1/75]

Shit they are apparently said fuck the infantry and went straight for SF. I still remember 19Ds in Airborne School telling everybody they were the guys out front of the infantry guys.

 

[Totentanz]

Well, I guess I can't wear that shirt in public again...

Not until you run out of Nickelback concert tees...

 

[Marauder06]

Not until you run out of Nickelback concert tees...

And Three Wolf tank tops.

 

[amlove21]

And Three Wolf tank tops.

THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[Ranger Psych]

Shit they are apparently said fuck the infantry and went straight for SF. I still remember 19Ds in Airborne School telling everybody they were the guys out front of the infantry guys.

wasn't much out in front of us in Iraq and Afghanistan that was conventional... as in, nothing. Whatever, Regiment stays relevant, they're trying to be relevant

 

[AWP]

I didn't realize we had so many members looking to be banned this week.

 

[DA SWO]

That is all true but the bulk of combat advising in OEF was done by conventional forces both as battlespace owners and embedded training teams. In the earlier stages of the war no one outside of the Special Forces was prepared to do this and this created myriad issues across the board. Maybe the Army is looking at these lessons and trying to prepare themselves for future conflicts.

I think the Conventional Forces got the mission because SF was tasked out.

 

[Bird Dog]

That is all true but the bulk of combat advising in OEF was done by conventional forces both as battlespace owners and embedded training teams.

I just got back from a rotation and was deeply disturbed with how SFATs were getting jerked around by BCT BSO's. It severely impacted their abilities and tied them up answering to multiple HQ's. I say leave it to the guys who can think outside the box.

 

[Marauder06]

"...if we had their resources and their support, we could.."

Whenever I hear that, it makes me want to punch the speaker in the throat. People who say those kinds of things are totally ignorant of what it takes to operate at the level of whatever element it is they think they're equal to. It completely ignores the culture of the other organization, and it reinforces the belief that you can fix just about anything if you throw enough money at it for long enough. That's simply not the case.

I heard this kind of thing a lot from my State Department acquaintances. "There are more people in the DoD's bands than their are in the foreign service corps. If we had your money and resources...". I almost always interrupt at that point. If you had our money and resources, what? What would you do if you had it? Build the biggest, most useless embassy in the entire world? Hire even more people who balk at deploying to a combat zone? Throw even more money at people who hate us and want to destroy our way of life? What, tell me, I’m DYING to know what it is that you would be able to do with this money that is so much better than what the DoD is doing.

The conversation usually goes downhill after that.

It’s cultural reasons, not economic ones, that are the major differences between organizations. I wish people would understand that.

 

[goon175]

People forget that SOF units haven't always had a ton of funding...

 

[surgicalcric]

People forget that SOF units haven't always had a ton of funding...

And we will return to having to think outside of the box to conduct training...

 

[surgicalcric]

Found this on FB

My 11 y/o daughter is closer to being JV SF than the three in that FB post. At least Cammy has some situational awareness... They cant even find the box much less think outside of it.

Fucking scouts wearing spurs...the only horses most have rode are the horse-faced fat-asses they bone.