Shooting / Smoke Attack on NY Subway

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Perfect timing for POTUS to discuss gun control to distract from crippling inflation that's putting mid-terms and his second term at risk.

Also very tragic- I wish the absolute best to every victim of this heinous crime and that justice is served swiftly and decisively against the perpetrator...
 
This is what happens when citizens are treated like serfs and only the nobility and their retainers are allowed to carry swords. We've grown weak as a society and we coddle those who weaken and strip our freedoms from us.
 
AWP said:
Dude was wearing a safety vest.

I've been tellin' y'all for years them belts was bullshit, but did anyone listen....
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Those vests and belts just breed weakness and nothing more dangerous than a “weak” person….
 
TLDR20 said:
What?
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I agree with the OP and interpret it as, New York does not allow citizens to carry guns. Crazy how gun violence happened since guns are outlawed there. Guess criminals don't actually follow laws.

My point being, those citizens were not allowed to defend themselves against a cock roach savage intent on doing harm because of socialist laws.

Frankly, I'm no lawyer but, if I were one of those shot, I'd find a great 2A supporting lawyer and sue the city for my injuries. 2A is clear, the city violates that, tell me I'm wrong.

To add, many citizens, useful idiots believe a disarmed society is safer. The UK, Australia, frankly, Europe says this is not the case.

A peaceable armed society is a polite society.
 
Muppet said:
Nothing to see here, move along. I told Maria, wait for school shooting or something like this. Ukraine is ehhh, covid is so yesterday, need manufactured panic.
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So…. Do you think this is a paid actor or a staged event?
 
Muppet said:
I agree with the OP and interpret it as, New York does not allow citizens to carry guns. Crazy how gun violence happened since guns are outlawed there. Guess criminals don't actually follow laws.

My point being, those citizens were not allowed to defend themselves against a cock roach savage intent on doing harm because of socialist laws.

Frankly, I'm no lawyer but, if I were one of those shot, I'd find a great 2A supporting lawyer and sue the city for my injuries. 2A is clear, the city violates that, tell me I'm wrong.

To add, many citizens, useful idiots believe a disarmed society is safer. The UK, Australia, frankly, Europe says this is not the case.

A peaceable armed society is a polite society.
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How often do you think that mass shooters are stopped by legally carrying folks? Like a ballpark percentage guess?

(ETA:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...civilians-with-guns-ever-stop-mass-shootings/ these are some that have happened and a good breakdown)

Mass shootings happen in places where open carry is legal. Mass shootings happen in churches, schools, malls, theaters, literally everywhere. Mass shootings happen regardless of who is President, who is in congress, who wins the super bowl, they happen when the economy is good or bad.
 
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It's the same as the Jan 6th "insurrection". Our elected officials have been committing unconstitutional, illegitimate and treasonous events for decades, Jan 6 happens, news to that.

Something happens in the hood, cities burn, it's considered peaceful protesting and folks use MLKs phrase about rioting. Righteous.

Folks March to open after closing mandates that worsened things and has been proven to not mitigate rona, protesters called mass spreaders, murderers and such.

Floyd was murdered by cops, marches, many maskless, including politicians, righteous, woke.

All while taking vision away from what's really important.
 
TLDR20 said:
How often do you think that mass shooters are stopped by legally carrying folks? Like a ballpark percentage guess?


Mass shootings happen in places where open carry is legal. Mass shootings happen in churches, schools, malls, theaters, literally everywhere. Mass shootings happen regardless of who is President, who is in congress, who wins the super bowl, they happen when the economy is good or bad.
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Of course they do. The OP stated that citizens are handcuffed essential from defending themselves. That's the point, and many allow it under the false assumption of being safe.

Church shootings, Texas guy shoots asshole. Happens all over the US where armed citizens stop threats, minimal to no news coverage. Why?
 
Muppet said:
Of course they do. The OP stated that citizens are handcuffed essential from defending themselves. That's the point, and many allow it under the false assumption of being safe.

Church shootings, Texas guy shoots asshole. Happens all over the US where armed citizens stop threats, minimal to no news coverage. Why?
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The OP said a bunch of fucking nonsense.

You are asserting something different, which I am more inclined to agree with.

I don’t think we can have it multiple ways. According to many here, most people are idiots. Most people probably have no business walking around with guns in the apolitical sense. We also know that even in trained populations maybe 1-5 folks/100 are real killers…. Extrapolate that out, and you don’t have that many dudes around to stop a killer. For instance your example of the church in Texas, that dude was on a security detail. He was looking for it. There are few examples comparative to amount of mass shootings.

We can act like this is a NY liberal problem where the nanny state takes away peoples rights, but mass shootings still happen in places where there is almost no restrictions on the right to bear arms.

Maybe this has nothing to do with much other than a fucking psycho trying to kill and maim people. Same as that Vegas guy, same as most of these things. More restrictions wouldn’t stop it, nor would less.
 
Disagree with your opinion on the OP, I think he's spot on.

Agree with much of training of concealed carriers and where mass killer events happen but again, respectfully, I think you're missing the point, whether it's liberal NY or Texas, having an armed society, trained or not is safer. I don't put much trust in WAPO neither.

I agree that most people are fucking idiots. I'd wager that those folks with banana syndrome, head in phones, tie tok gay fucks, leftist skells have less situational awareness and are totally ok with a nanny state taking control of their lives and safety.

In summary, I'd rather have a peaceable armed society than virtue signaling, mask wearing because lord Fauci told em to, liberals. IMHO
 
TLDR20 said:
We can act like this is a NY liberal problem where the nanny state takes away peoples rights, but mass shootings still happen in places where there is almost no restrictions on the right to bear arms.

Maybe this has nothing to do with much other than a fucking psycho trying to kill and maim people. Same as that Vegas guy, same as most of these things. More restrictions wouldn’t stop it, nor would less.
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I agree with you to a point. The problem is that the people of NY (and other states) do not enjoy the same liberties or opportunities to protect themselves as do the citizens of other states. We'll never know if a "good guy with a gun" would have made a difference because no one had the opportunity to use a firearm due to the political policies of NY state.
 
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