Soldier Shot During Special Forces Training Event After Live Ammo Mixed in with Blanks
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Was Vance the one close to the BX? If you were going south on Disney it would be to your right? I never ate there, I was a contractor during my time in Afghanistan.
Kraut783
SOF Support
Yeah, Vance was in the old CJSOTF-A compound off of Disney.
@SpongeBob*24 now we have an answer.
(We had a PM about Bagram DFACs and I couldn't remember the camp's name)
Vance...wasn't he a Guard 18E? And Montrond...7th Group? I used to read bios and could remember this stuff.
(We had a PM about Bagram DFACs and I couldn't remember the camp's name)
Vance...wasn't he a Guard 18E? And Montrond...7th Group? I used to read bios and could remember this stuff.
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Kraut783
SOF Support
This already exists in the Marine Corps at most bases. I assume the Army has something similar. They support multiple weapon systems and have all sorts of scenarios. Good for individual training, not as good for unit training. ISMT We have one for supporting arms as well Supporting Arms Virtual Trainer
But how much time is an individual soldier or Marine spending on those sims per year?
ThunderHorse
Verified Military
Regulars get a lot less range time than specials. Even in the year we went through two BDE certification exercises I might have spent a total of 12 days shooting at company level (this was the high for the squadron) and then add gunnery which was 20 days, we were supposed to do gunnery twice that year but got kaboshed by Brigade Modernization Command.
Infantry and Scouts in forscom units generically never shoot enough. We had snipers in our MTOE and they never shot their long guns because we didn't have any long guns...and didn't have DM rifles either.
ETA: Sim Center at Ft Bliss had an interesting calendar to say the least. Certain quarters were black and some months they would beg units to come in to use it. Massive facility that had everything from small arms to Abrams.
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Strictly from the medical pov. Those VR goggles are the shit. I contributed to the Statement Of Work (SOW). On a version of these goggles that have a HUD in them. The Medic/Corpsman can scroll through a quick reference for treatments in the PCC/PFC stages. As well as transmitting back in realtime. To senior medical personal who can view what the Medic/Corpsman is seeing.
VR's biggest problem is 25-40% (some studies have it at a whopping 70%) will suffer from motion sickness. The Air Force tried VR for a 3D command and control network and it bombed because of motion sickness. That brings up some problems:
1. If you can "grow" out of motion sickness how long does it take?
2. If someone can't handle motion sickness, how can they train?
3. If the value is limited because of the above, are you willing to chop trainees because they can't train in a VR system?
4. How much are you willing to spend? Is the increase in capabilities worth it despite the above?
Personally, I think VR is overhyped and the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
1. If you can "grow" out of motion sickness how long does it take?
2. If someone can't handle motion sickness, how can they train?
3. If the value is limited because of the above, are you willing to chop trainees because they can't train in a VR system?
4. How much are you willing to spend? Is the increase in capabilities worth it despite the above?
Personally, I think VR is overhyped and the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
Devildoc
Verified Military
VR is an adjunct in education, just another tool in the tool belt. Operationally we're seeing it with austere medicine with everyone in between "I'm just a medic, bro" to physicians. It's more and more commonplace.
Absolutely! SOMSA 2023's exhibit hall had tables full of this type of equipment to display and demonstrate. One of the ones I used. Was just a set of goggles for a troop. That had different sensors in them That monitored the wearer's location and physiological data. So that the medical authority in a rear position. Has a realtime overview of an individual or team.
ETA: Most of what I saw was considered Augmented Reality (AR). Which from what the demonstrator stated. Doesn't cause spatial adjustment issues. Most of the VR stuff is for an immersive training experience. Where AR just throws up a display on your HUD. You still can focus on the horizon.
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