Third Reich "Pageantry"

Awesome pictures. The sheer numbers of people in some of those photos is unimaginable. Great link!
 
CAVEAT: Obama's not a Nazi however the similarities of "media management" cannot go unnoticed. Group think can have tragic consequences.

Explain this. Every President in the 20th cetury has had big rallies. What is it about Obama's rally that makes you draw comparisons to the Nazis?
 
Cool. Except this "Obama Youth Brigade" doesn't exist http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/give.asp
These kids were doing this as part of a class presentation. It was never sponsored or endorsed by the Obama campaign, which makes sense because it would be retarded to do so.

And if you want to trot out kids singing to the President, it can get waaaaaaaay creepier:

Really folks, this dog-whistle racism surrounding the President needs to stop.
 
Deathy McDeath why are you bringing up racism? Where did that enter the conversation?

There are similarities between Hitler and Obama, mainly in the fervor of the supporters which has nothing to do with the leaders.
However, Obama also espoused the idea of a civil organization as equally powerful as the military (SA/SS), he has also pushed a very socialist agenda that is closer to National Socialism than it is to Constitutional American.

I bet I could find some similarities to Bush as well, the Patriot act springs to mind.
 
PLEASE Explain this. Every President in the 20th cetury has had big rallies. What is it about Obama's rally that makes you draw comparisons to the Nazis?

I fixed your quote. I would suggest you read my post one more time in order to identify where exactly I said his rally was similar to the Nazis'.

What I did write was the German National SOCIALIST (emphasis added) Party manipulated media much like the current administration is doing. Watch nightly "news" broadcasts of NBC, ABC, and CBS to examples. The extreme case would be MSNBC: their stories follow lock-step with the Admin's message of rich people are evil, have cheated the system to take advantages to unavailable to middle class/poor, should "pay their fair share" (implying their are not), etc.

It is well known that many of Obama's policies, particularly his economic and foreign policies, are typically (generalizing here) given a free pass by the MSM whereas Bush's missteps or controversial ones were openly confronted. "It's Bush's fault." "We inherited this economic crisis." <----Who actually initiated the idea that every American should be able to own a home?

To be direct, I really don't give a flying f!@# what race the President is however...the mere fact that YOU brought up racism alludes to the absence of facts in your argument against media manipulation and the only thing that must be left on the table:

Anti-Obama'ites are racist.

Nice. However...you just proved my point way better than I ever could articulate it. :thumbsup:
 
Yes, I know, the Politico is racist because it's a Republican mouthpiece, the authors are white males, who surely own guns, probably drive trucks, may or may not have a hound dog, etc, etc: got it. (Deathy, totally messing with you there. :D)

Regardless, just read the article while keeping in mind the conservative slant but also think about the points made especially in the context of the incident in Libya as well as other hot topics. I don't recall other administrations threatening journalists (ref Woodward incident).

President Barack Obama is a master at limiting, shaping and manipulating media coverage of himself and his White House.
Not for the reason that conservatives suspect: namely, that a liberal press willingly and eagerly allows itself to get manipulated. Instead, the mastery mostly flows from a White House that has taken old tricks for shaping coverage (staged leaks, friendly interviews) and put them on steroids using new ones (social media, content creation, precision targeting). And it’s an equal opportunity strategy: Media across the ideological spectrum are left scrambling for access.
 
Political discussions are fine. Disagreement is fine. Discussions about touchy subjects are fine.

Keep this about whatever issue you'd like to discuss, but if this turns into something other than directly related to the OP's initial point, either take it to PM or start a new thread and go that route. I'm up for both.

But play nice, we are all friends here. Well, except for me and Freefalling We gots something so right going on *cue marvin gaye*

DOUBLE ENTENDRE PUN THREAD POINTS
 
Our first Brony just outed himself. "That others may sparkle."

Back to the OP, every politician has their "flair," we need to only watch the respective party conventions during an election cycle to see that. I think what is striking to me was the depth and scope of the flair used by the Nazis. Every event was a reason to set up banners, put on their dress blues (so to speak, "church clothes" or "Sunday best" if you prefer), and expose thousands upon thousands to a message. So, think about a political convention's atmosphere erupting everytime an elected offical took the stage. Imagine dozens or hundreds of soldiers with flags and banners at every event.

Maybe it is my cynical nature, maybe my advanced age of almost 40, or maybe I'm just messed up, but when I hear someone touting a person over an idea it makes my skin crawl. Reagan's face or Obama's, I make no distinction.
 
Bronie. It's spelled bronie.

I agree about the pageantry/scope of what a lot of these countries do, even our own. N. Korea, China and Japan to a lesser extent (but equal to our own proclivities).

I don't like celebrations of these types either. I can barely stand any military "pomp and circumstance", it just creeps me out to no end.

I have to take a shower like Cher in Silkwood after every retirement/change of command. And that's on a miniscule scale compared to an RNC/DNC convention or what we saw in Germany in the 35-45 Era.
 
Political discussions are fine. Disagreement is fine. Discussions about touchy subjects are fine.

Keep this about whatever issue you'd like to discuss, but if this turns into something other than directly related to the OP's initial point, either take it to PM or start a new thread and go that route. I'm up for both.

But play nice, we are all friends here. Well, except for me and Freefalling We gots something so right going on *cue marvin gaye*

DOUBLE ENTENDRE PUN THREAD POINTS

Please don't drag Marvin Gaye into your gayfest...
 
Maybe it is my cynical nature, maybe my advanced age of almost 40, or maybe I'm just messed up, but when I hear someone touting a person over an idea it makes my skin crawl. Reagan's face or Obama's, I make no distinction.

One thing that a lot of western foreigners to the USA see as weird, is Americans voting for a person instead of policies.
In the UK/OZ/NZ to name a couple, you basically vote for the party, that party picks and chooses it's leader and can and often does replace those leaders at will.

Just different.
 
One thing that a lot of western foreigners to the USA see as weird, is Americans voting for a person instead of policies.
In the UK/OZ/NZ to name a couple, you basically vote for the party, that party picks and chooses it's leader and can and often does replace those leaders at will.

Just different.

Same thing here, although I've seen a shift in thinking and attempts by parties to change the system. Recently elected leader of the Liberal Party, Justin Trudeau is a perfect example; he is not qualified to be in the position but he was voted in for his name. And I'm sure the party knowingly did it in hopes that the ignorant masses will vote for him in the next Federal election completely based on his name. Fucking Liberals...
 
Same thing here, although I've seen a shift in thinking and attempts by parties to change the system. Recently elected leader of the Liberal Party, Justin Trudeau is a perfect example; he is not qualified to be in the position but he was voted in for his name. And I'm sure the party knowingly did it in hopes that the ignorant masses will vote for him in the next Federal election completely based on his name. Fucking Liberals...

Related to Pierre?
 
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