Turkey Authorizes Warships To Escort Gaza Aid

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14844902

Speaking to Al Jazeera, Mr Erdogan also said Turkey had taken steps to prevent Israel unilaterally exploiting natural resources in the eastern Mediterranean.

He spoke amid a growing row over Israel's refusal to apologise for a deadly raid on an aid ship last year.
Turkey has already cut military ties and expelled Israel's ambassador.

It has also said it will challenge Israel's blockade of Gaza at the International Court of Justice (ICJ).
Relations between Turkey and Israel have worsened since Israeli forces boarded the Mavi Marmara aid ship in May last year as it was heading for Gaza. Nine Turkish activists were killed during the raid.
Israel has refused to apologise and said its troops acted in self-defence.

In his comments to Al-Jazeera, Mr Erdogan said Turkish warships were "authorised to protect our ships that carry humanitarian aid to Gaza".
 

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Well turkey has a modern military and western(American tactics). I just don't think this was wise on either side!
 

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Well turkey has a modern military and western(American tactics). I just don't think this was wise on either side!
I agree on the wisdom part, but their Mil mindset (my experience) is more WW II/Korea, then modern. Plus they are steaming into the other guys neighborhood, and Art 5 may not apply. I think Turkey would lose more then Israel.
 

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Israel simply needs to state "we will view any military vessal in our waters as an act of war" and leave it up to Turkey if they really want to go to war with Israel. I doubt they will if they told directly that they will be at war, ect. I also think Israel will kick Turkey's ass in any for of a military action, but I think it will also toss the middle east into shit storm of "gang up on Israel" and that will put the United States in a really bad way (either we get involved or we sit it out, either way it's bad for us).
 

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Israel simply needs to state "we will view any military vessal in our waters as an act of war" and leave it up to Turkey if they really want to go to war with Israel. I doubt they will if they told directly that they will be at war, ect. I also think Israel will kick Turkey's ass in any for of a military action, but I think it will also toss the middle east into shit storm of "gang up on Israel" and that will put the United States in a really bad way (either we get involved or we sit it out, either way it's bad for us).
Israel hasn't exactly been forthcoming of late on notifying people of exactly why they might blow the shit out of them.
 

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Very true, but if Turkey is putting it out there, then there is no reason for Israel not to put it out. We all know what Israel will do, they are not going to let military vessals into Gaza, especially one from Turkey. At least by saying we will blow the shit out of your boats, the rest of the world can say "they gave them fair warning not to do that".
 

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I agree, all I'm saying is don't expect much from Israel in the way of a WARNO about anything. I think that is one of their strengths that keeps people in check sometimes, nobody knows WTF they're gonna do if you use the wrong shitter.
 

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I doubt that anyone boarding a ship will be armed with paintball guns like last time.
Where's ML?
 

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I agree, all I'm saying is don't expect much from Israel in the way of a WARNO about anything. I think that is one of their strengths that keeps people in check sometimes, nobody knows WTF they're gonna do if you use the wrong shitter.
I thought the exclusion zone was published, and the waters belonged to Israel?
Would ROR if the Turkish Destroyer had a massive computer failure.
 

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I thought the exclusion zone was published, and the waters belonged to Israel?
Would ROR if the Turkish Destroyer had a massive computer failure.
You are correct, however, we have set the standard for long drawn out warning speeches about how upset we are and that the BG's should stop whatever it is they're doing. I think other countries have come to expect this from the few allies we have left from this admin. I love it when Israel pops up in the news all of a sudden because some asshat country gets out of line and steps where they were warned not to. I wish we still had some of that left in us.
 

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There are fresh reports that Turkey has modified its electronic designation of Israeli aircraft from "friend" to "foe". Not a good sign.

There seems to be a radically anti-Israeli face emerging from all corners- from the so-called "Arab Spring", the storming of the embassy in Egypt, the call for Sharia law by leaders of the various revolts, and now the brinksmanship game with Turkey.

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-256...longer-friend-for-turkeys-f-16s-warships.html

Turkey's Military Electronics Industry (ASELSAN) has produced a new identification friend or foe (IFF) system for Turkish jet fighters, warships and submarines and the new software, contrary to the older, US-made version, does not automatically identify Israeli planes and ships as friends, a news report said on Tuesday.

The new IFF has already been installed in Turkish F-16s and is expected to be installed in all Navy ships and submarines, the report, published in Turkish daily Star, said. It will be fully operational when it is installed in all military planes, warships and submarines.

The F-16 jet fighters, purchased from the US, came with pre-installed IFF software that automatically identifies Israeli fighters and warships as friends, disabling Turkish F-16s from targeting Israeli planes or ships. ASELSAN-made IFF will allow Turkish military commanders to identify friends and foes on the basis of national considerations.

Turkey was unable to make modifications to the friend or foe identification codes in US-made F-16s, while Israel was given a different version of the software allowing Israeli authorities to make modifications. Israel was also authorized to view the version given to Turkey, according to Star.

The report comes amid a severe crisis in ties with former ally Israel. Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan set the stage for a possible naval confrontation with Israel in the Eastern Mediterranean, saying last week that Turkish military ships will escort civilian ships carrying aid to Gaza, under an Israeli blockade since 2007.
 

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Those Turkish assholes have short memories. Israel was there with people on the ground during the big earthquake that struck in 1999.

The current Turkish regime is going against what Ataturk wanted and set in place.
 

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Personally I think it will be a lot of political posturing and not much action. However if Turkey needs to be invaded because of this for God's sakes lets not do it via way of Anzac cove...
 

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Suspected Bomb Rocks Turkish Capital

An explosion rocked the center of Ankara on Tuesday morning, injuring 15 people and damaging surrounding vehicles, Reuters reported via Turkish broadcasters.
The cause of the blast, whose source was apparently a vehicle in the area, was not immediately clear.
A reporter from broadcaster NTV said surrounding vehicles were thrown around by the force of the blast. Shops near the point of explosion were damaged beyond recognition, he added.
The wreckage of the vehicle was so badly damaged, it was not possible to tell what type of a vehicle it was, NTV reporter said.
Police have cordoned off the area with suspicion of an explosive device. The bomb squad was also deployed to the location of the blast.
The injured were taken to different hospitals in Ankara.
Meanwhile, a woman chanting slogans near the site of the blast was detained by the police.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/

ANKARA, Turkey — A suspected car bomb exploded across a secondary school in the Turkish capital on Tuesday, wounding 15 people, authorities said.

There was no immediate claim of responsibility, but the attack comes at a time when Kurdish rebels fighting for autonomy in southeastern Turkey have escalated their attacks on Turkish targets. The rebels carried out deadly bomb attacks in Turkish cities in the past. Islamic and leftist militants were also behind some bombings in this NATO-member and U.S. ally country.

"There is information that a bomb was planted on the vehicle," that exploded in the downtown Kizilay district, said Deputy Prime Minister Bulent Arinc.

The blast wounded 15 people, said Besir Atalay, another deputy prime minister. At least three of the injured were in serious condition and some of them reportedly lost their limbs.

"I felt the blast effect of the explosion some 500 meters (547 yards) away," said Ekrem Erkoc, a 42-year-old eyewitness. "I saw vehicles on fire and an injured man said people lost their limbs."
The injured were initially treated in the school yard before medics rushed to the scene and whisked them away to hospitals, NTV television said.

Kurdish rebels were last blamed for a small bomb attack in the Mediterranean resort town of Kemer on Aug. 28 that injured 10 people, including four Swedish nationals.

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/suspected-bomb-rocks-turkish-1184690.html

Not good.

So many different places this could have come from.
 
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