United States & Gun Control discussion.

[ThunderHorse]

He was released yesterday and the police can't just "decide" to search his car without probable cause...which the articles I just read do not mention.

Charges appear to have been dropped.

Chargers' Denzel Perryman released from custody with weapons charges dropped, per report

 

[Devildoc]

Charges appear to have been dropped.

Chargers' Denzel Perryman released from custody with weapons charges dropped, per report

I wonder if they saw a 4th amendment violation?

 

[The Quartermaster]

Sounds like they profiled him and lost that hunch.

 

[Muppet]

That escalated quickly....

 

[Ooh-Rah]

That escalated quickly....

Man. There is a lot going on in that video!

 

[Muppet]

Man. There is a lot going on in that video!

Indeed brother.

 

[Marauder06]

Man. There is a lot going on in that video!

<watches video>

wait... what?

 

[Blizzard]

Man. There is a lot going on in that video!

That's an understatement.

LOL at the reporter's emphasis during her commentary "...seemingly had a romantic relationship with..a man..." as though she was shocked to hear of such a thing.

 

[The Quartermaster]

Huh, it actually was corrective training after all.

/s

 

[Muppet]

Hell yeah

 

[AWP]

Hell yeah

"When you can use it"

I had a coworker yesterday talk about the Castle Doctrine. He didn't know FL is a Stand Your Ground state. I told him a threat is a threat. There's no duty to retreat and you don't have to be in your home. Tell the responding officers you were in fear for your life and those around you, and then stop talking until you have a lawyer.

 

[Muppet]

"When you can use it"

I had a coworker yesterday talk about the Castle Doctrine. He didn't know FL is a Stand Your Ground state. I told him a threat is a threat. There's no duty to retreat and you don't have to be in your home. Tell the responding officers you were in fear for your life and those around you, and then stop talking until you have a lawyer.

Wise words!!!

Folks forget the 5th amendment. STFU is always a prudent idea.

I have CCW Safe as self defense insurance, I carry a card on me that explains how I should proceed in case of a self defense event, the bolded letters, STOP TALKING UNTIL ATTORNEY PRESENT....

 

[Kraut783]

Wise words!!!

Folks forget the 5th amendment. STFU is always a prudent idea.

I have CCW Safe as self defense insurance, I carry a card on me that explains how I should proceed in case of a self defense event, the bolded letters, STOP TALKING UNTIL ATTORNEY PRESENT....

Even LEO shooting, our association lawyer responds and assist in writing the statement. We dont say shit without our lawyer there.

 

[Muppet]

Even LEO shooting, our association lawyer responds and assist in writing the statement. We dont say shit without our lawyer there.

I learned that. What gets me though, maybe you can explain is that, LEOs, depending on region/dept has anywhere from 72 to 96 hours where they are NOT required to speak w/o an attorney, yet, civilians are not offered that aspect, is this accurate?

I know both LEO and civ, anything said w/o attorney can be held against you.

 

[Kraut783]

Well, depends on agency...we would have to provide a statement within 24 hours. All civilians can immediately ask for an attorney, and no statement made until lawyer present....I mean that's the basics for Miranda.

 

[TLDR20]

Charges appear to have been dropped.

Chargers' Denzel Perryman released from custody with weapons charges dropped, per report

From what I understand about the case he said he had weapons which were legally purchased but illegal in California.