Kraut783
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wow...Legion d'honneur, very nice.
I'm sure the US will step up, ARCOM's for everyone!!
I'm sure the US will step up, ARCOM's for everyone!!
US Servicemembers stop active shooter on board Paris train
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His own sister gave the details...I'm hoping it was with his approval.It's awesome The Telegraph honored his request to remain unnamed/private. Keepin' it classy.
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There should not need to be a regulation to tell you how to prepare for that event - they looked like a couple of college students - not men representing the military of the United States.
This has nothing to do with them being on leave - it has to do with the fact that these U.S. Servicemen showed up to an international formal ceremony, where they were bringing honored, dressed like they were "back on the block". (To quote Drill Instructor SSgt Hines).
That is unsat gentlemen. And as @AKkeith said, there is zero-point-zero chance any Marine would have dared do that. Hell I've been out 20 years and still get a haircut every 3 weeks -
Congratulations, you're moto without a cause. Semper Derp! Simple fact, what's the point?
The guy's on leave, kicking ass and taking names as the situation presents. He's not there as a fucking soldier or sailor or whatever, he just IS one that stepped up in a purely individual capacity while on his fucking VACATION.
I guess I don't know why you're warble garbling. And, once again, Regs state how you should look in uniform. Where's the uniform?
What I do see is some guys that saved a shitton of lives by taking action, and some guy most likely without the Legion d'honneur complaining about not having shaven.
The guy's on leave, kicking ass and taking names as the situation presents. He's not there as a fucking soldier or sailor or whatever, he just IS one that stepped up in a purely individual capacity while on his fucking VACATION.
I guess I don't know why you're warble garbling. And, once again, Regs state how you should look in uniform. Where's the uniform?
What I do see is some guys that saved a shitton of lives by taking action, and some guy most likely without the Legion d'honneur complaining about not having shaven.
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A haircut every week!? Fucking hell, I think I'd lose my mind if I had to be at that carry on... I love my hair too much.
As for the shaving thing, I can see both sides of the argument but I'd lean more to RP's argument, the incident happened while he was on leave and all the publicity is happening while still on leave. He was part of a group of people who stopped a massacre from taking place, fuck being clean shaven.
LOL. These guys step up to the plate and beat the fuck out of an AK wielding terrorist. One of them gets pretty sliced up during the brawl. And the way they looked at the ceremony is a concern? Considering how quickly it happened, I am sure they did the best they could. It's not like they showed up in shorts, flip-flops, and tank tops. Who gives a fuck? Congrats, no Marine would have done that. They would have slayed the terrorist with ease and immediately morphed into wearing dress blues with clean shaves and the freshest of haircuts so no pictures would be taken that could bring discredit upon the military. Because, you know, the actions are secondary to how you look after the fact.
I'll make sure that I wear a collared affliction shirt under a nickleback tshirt, have a chinstrap and flipflops with black socks with tapout shorts if I ever have a non-uniform-wearing press conference for doing something heroically BA. Just to make guys that rage over stupid shit have heads explode.
We don't know the lead in details, for all we know the French said not to worry.
He got cut on saturday, rested on Sunday, and was with the French President on Monday. For all we know he finished the ceremony/interview and headed back to bed. He may have been little tired from having his thumb stitched up along with any pain meds he's on.
Suit would have been a nice touch, but dockers/khakis were fine by me (not like our guy always dresses up for Rose Garden Ceremonies).
I hope the AF gives the Airman proper rehab on his thumb and he can get his life back on-track, same for the Guard guy and their friend.
I also hope the duck and cower crowd reassesses their active shooter advice.
He got cut on saturday, rested on Sunday, and was with the French President on Monday. For all we know he finished the ceremony/interview and headed back to bed. He may have been little tired from having his thumb stitched up along with any pain meds he's on.
Suit would have been a nice touch, but dockers/khakis were fine by me (not like our guy always dresses up for Rose Garden Ceremonies).
I hope the AF gives the Airman proper rehab on his thumb and he can get his life back on-track, same for the Guard guy and their friend.
I also hope the duck and cower crowd reassesses their active shooter advice.
When I read the thread I expected some kind of Taliban-like twisted and dirty growth on their faces but those beards look neat and tidy, same with their dress. I'd imagine it unlikely they had suits spare just in case of a formal occasion...
Exponential levels of derp.
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ETA: They didn't shave? They didn't freaking SHAVE? Save a trainload of people and no one bats an eye, forget to shave before an almost impromptu awards ceremony and everyone loses their mind. "Well, in the Marines..." which is great for Marines and not applicable to the rest of the world. I think highly of the Corps, but this is one area where Corps' moto levels are beyond stupid. We know all of the facts? How much lead time they and the embassy had to coordinate the ceremony? Because of all the impromptu awards ceremony clothing laying about the embassy? Seriously? They went from "well done" to "get a shave?" in 48 hours?
On a personal level I'm blown away that this is a point of discussion.
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It was only a valid point of discussion because of the literal, undeniable, fact, that the Marine Corps would have the head of a Marine caught like that without a shave.
Not that I agree. I absolutely hated that level of stupidity that is uniformly enforced.
Not that I agree. I absolutely hated that level of stupidity that is uniformly enforced.
This explains why every recently finished up Marine I've ever met seems to have thrown away their razor. It's like the Amish on Rambooka or whatever it's called.
French officially called it a terrorist attack, so the Airman gets a Purple Heart in addition to the Airman's Medal. I see early promotion to E-4 and 5 in his future (unless the long knives come out which is a distinct possibility).
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Well this didn't take long to make one of them "famous!"
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^^^Dude's not going to go without the pu-55-Yankee for a hot minute after that.
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Jimmy Kimmel Did Something Amazing for the Airman Who Stopped Paris Train Terrorist Last Night [VIDEO]
As the link above says Jimmy Kimmel honored Airman Spencer Stone on his show. There is a video on the page if you follow the link which shows the interview between the two in which Airman Stone tells his account of the story. My favorite part Stone says, "I saw the man squirting blood out of his neck...I just stuck my finger in it and the bleeding stopped and I was like WOW this basic medical stuff works."
"Kimmel decided to do something amazing for the young Airman and surprised him with a car when he was on the show. NBA superstar Klay Thompson showed in a brand new 2016 Chevy Camaro convertible. Thompson gave Stone a championship jersey and hat before it was revealed that the car was actually for Stone. Stone will also be honored with the Airman’s Medal, a Purple Heart and a promotion from E-3 to E-5 on Thursday."
As the link above says Jimmy Kimmel honored Airman Spencer Stone on his show. There is a video on the page if you follow the link which shows the interview between the two in which Airman Stone tells his account of the story. My favorite part Stone says, "I saw the man squirting blood out of his neck...I just stuck my finger in it and the bleeding stopped and I was like WOW this basic medical stuff works."
"Kimmel decided to do something amazing for the young Airman and surprised him with a car when he was on the show. NBA superstar Klay Thompson showed in a brand new 2016 Chevy Camaro convertible. Thompson gave Stone a championship jersey and hat before it was revealed that the car was actually for Stone. Stone will also be honored with the Airman’s Medal, a Purple Heart and a promotion from E-3 to E-5 on Thursday."
Florida173
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How does one typically get promoted from E3 to E5? I don't recall any Medal of Honor recipients getting double promoted. Kind of makes the rank system somewhat arbitrary.
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Does the AF assign promotion points for different awards?
E3 to E5 is a big deal? For stopping a terrorist attack? E-4 to E-6 you might have a point, E-5 or higher to higher you might have a point, but E-3 to E-5? They'll send him to ALS (AF's version of Warrior Leader or PLDC or whatever it is these days) and he'll be at the bottom of the pile in TiG, but at the end of the day the guy jumped a dude carrying an AK and I can't believe this is an issue.
Florida173
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I'm not sure it is an issue and I'm sure that this act is absolutely exceptional, especially for an airman
