Shane Austin Moya
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im looking for an out of the gate special forces contract. Army said no because of DUI and a small drug charge...is there a way to get a contract off the bat
Who will take me
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I am out of my lane here in that as I am not SOF. With my Mod/Yoda hat on, I'll pass this along."You may be whatever you resolve to be". The words are from LT General Thomas J. Jackson, CSA. That is etched in stone where he taught, VMI, what today would be Physics, and Artillery Tactics. The key word is "Resolve". The resolve means you will do whatever is required, and necessary to reach your goal. It means doing everything that is necessary. Find a goal, resolve to get there, and move with a purpose before someone else tells you to do so.
Short answer, NO.
You might have gotten by with the DUI but drugs NO. The Armed services are in a drawdown. Unless you are young and can wait. Time between conviction and enlisting is your only hope and that could still be iffy
Wanting any SOF career right out of the gate, and by "any" I don't mean a singular instance, smacks of desperation. It isn't "I want to be a Ranger, how do I enlist for that" or "How do I enlist to be a PJ" but anything available? That sounds...."off" for lack of a better word.
Your best bet is to talk to a recruiter, do your homework, and then return here with some questions. The drawdown will have a huge impact on your opportunities and if you really want to be in a SOF unit you may have to enlist in a non-SOF capacity and work your way into the community. Even then with your background you may have some issues, but your past choices could well place you in a position to prove yourself. The "gimme" contracts are typically for those with clean records and the appearance of offering something, not for guys with a track record of poor decisions.
Have you gone to any recruiters and if so, what branch(es)?
What constitutes a small drug charge?
It isn't about what you want, but about what SOF needs. You ain't it.
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Army said can't be done... Best I can do is join infantry and try and scrape my way in
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U don't even know me lol. "I ain't it" thanks bro.
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... because insulting a senior member of the SF community (who is certainly not your "bro") is your ticket in?
So far you've displayed a pattern of shitty judgment, an inability to perform as a self starter, completely absent attention to detail, and - as @Freefalling noted - desperation, in addition to a lack of focus in your efforts.
No, you're not who SOF is looking for.
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Thanks bro. If all SF are as sensitive as u and get "insulted" that's easy then I don't need them
Did you even bother to look at @surgicalcric 's profile? You do realize he is a fully qualified SF soldier with multiple deployments and is involved with SFRE, right?
Now for a further explanation of my short answer, all in one place so you don't have to bother reading where it is all posted above.
1. there is a drawdown, less people are being accepted into the military period
2. Every swinging Richard wants to be in an SOF unit, the standards are there for a reason, and they are getting tougher all the time
3. ANY drug charge is now a bar to joining an SOF unit, unless you have a stellar non-SOF military record, and even then it could preclude you
4. situational awareness is key - you have not displayed that so far
5. attention to detail is key - you have not displayed that
6. What you want does not matter, what do you have to offer to the SOF community?
7. your posts are being seen by senior SF personnel, are they helping you or hurting you at this point?
Think about it from our point of view, would you give you a chance based on what you have posted so far on this board? Because I wouldn't.
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Please allow me to offer some less readily available insight-
You already know you committed the crimes, that's a dead horse. Another perspective that will never be publicly admitted to but may be unofficially considered is this- you got caught.
You now have a history of failure. Whether it's in sniper school, Taliban controlled Waziristan, low viz whatever in country x... the name of the game is to not be found out/busted/whatever. Your historical precedent is that of mission failure by way of being compromised.
There is your answer.
Go Infantry (or another combat arms MOS) and see if you can get Airborne into your contract.
Be a stellar performer, apply for selection.
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Yeah fuck it I'm enlisting as infantryman Ill just crush it in everything I do
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Moderator hat on.......So, your leadoff was, Who will take me? You are going to volunteer for enlistment in the US Army. That is your plan, nice. I challenge you to do just that. Remain a member of this site, and once you have an MOS, come back with a request for status as "Verified Military". Then you will have some understanding of what the SOF members above have been talking about.
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If that's really how you feel, then good for you!
You can't change the past. Good luck.
You started this thread looking for any SOF contract, then developed a chip on your shoulder, and now you've said you'll go infantry.
All in about 12 hours.
You can get mad all you want, but you're all over the map, one extreme to another. You want our help, cop some attitude instead of rolling with the punches, and then say "screw it, I won't even talk to other recruiters."
You lack focus and commitment. Life will eat you alive unless you make some changes.
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