A Christmas Carol and Math

R.Caerbannog

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Figured I'd try and calculate Bob Cratchits wages, in a Christmas Carol, into modern USD.


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(15 shilling * 52 weeks) / 20 (shillings in pound) = 39 pounds
Yearly wage of 7,760.61 dollars after conversion

What the Dickens? Rents of Christmas past ‘Cratchit’ up by around 120,000% since 1840s

Data shows that for Ebenezer Scrooge to rent his three-bedroom house in Lime Street in the City of London, the cost would have been around 7 shillings, 8 pence a week in the 1840s3. In today’s money this equates to around £46 per week (2017 comparison)4. But had Scrooge rented today, he would have grimaced at the cost of £459 per week5 for a three-bedroom house in London – an increase of 119,300%.

If the pace of rent growth continues at the same rate for a further 175 years, a three-bed home in London would cost on average around £548,076 per week to rent in the year 21936.

But while Scrooge may have had the means to rent, Bob Cratchit and family - including Tiny Tim - could not have afforded such a high rent on 15 shillings per week7, so he probably would have only been able to rent a single room for his entire family, costing around six shillings a week8 in what would have been a Victorian slum in Camden. In today’s money, this would have been the equivalent of £18.139 a week. In comparison, a room in Camden in today’s market would be on average around £247 per week10.

39 pounds in 1843 = 7,760.61 USD

1843 Pound = 198.99 USD
1843 Shilling = 9.95 (9.9495) USD

Bob Cratchits weekly take home = 149.24 USD
Rent weekly payment = 59.697 USD
Leaves 9 shillings (89.54 USD) for weekly expenditures.
 
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I always have problems with these types of let's compare money's value from over 150 years ago.

The only thing this is taking into account is the inflation rate over that time. It doesn't take into account all the changes that have occurred over that time as well. Things like advancements in technology, the expected minimum standards of living, the availability of work, support programs (not just welfare programs, but educational scholarships/grants, job placement services, etc), and on and on. Heck, the minimum wage didn't even exist back then (set at 11.44 GBP/hr for 2024 in Britain, or 23,795 GBP/yr, not 7,760 as a quick example).

It makes for a great shock statement and bulging graphic, but it doesn't reflect the whole picture even remotely.
 
It was the best of times, it was the I don't give a shit about Dickens and have never read his books of times.

Call me, Ishmael. Actually, don't. I never read that one either.

Mistah Kurtz - he dead.

Wow - that is some hard core bah humbug level dislike of World Literature.
What in the world do you read this time of year - The Epic of Gilgamesh?
 
I always have problems with these types of let's compare money's value from over 150 years ago.

The only thing this is taking into account is the inflation rate over that time. It doesn't take into account all the changes that have occurred over that time as well. Things like advancements in technology, the expected minimum standards of living, the availability of work, support programs (not just welfare programs, but educational scholarships/grants, job placement services, etc), and on and on. Heck, the minimum wage didn't even exist back then (set at 11.44 GBP/hr for 2024 in Britain, or 23,795 GBP/yr, not 7,760 as a quick example).

It makes for a great shock statement and bulging graphic, but it doesn't reflect the whole picture even remotely.
I don't blame you, you would need a lot more data to draw a better picture. Was just watching A Christmas Carol with my gal and figured it would be a fun little thought experiment. For instance, I didn't realize that 20 shillings made a pound or that 240 pence was also a pound.
 
Just a quick show of hands...

How many people expected this thread to escalate to "how about these porn movie titles" in less than 10 posts ???

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Just a quick show of hands...

How many people expected this thread to escalate to "how about these porn movie titles" in less than 10 posts ???

Not much of a leap from meth in post#2 to porn titles in post#7. You gotta get in the fun before the thread gets locked

Sorest Rump
Village of the Rammed
An Officer and a Genital Man
Oklahomo!
 
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Speaking of dickens, how about these porn movie titles: Edward Penishands, Saturday Night Beaver and ET: The Extra Testicle.

ETA: The Sperminator.

ET: The Extra Testicle was from a Cheech & Chong movie lol. It was a great bit.
 
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