Attention All Marines...From Now On......

[AKkeith]

The platoon upstairs from mine at the First Recruit Training Battalion was mixed male and female in 1996.

Half of that platoon joined my platoon for Infantry Employment Training 3 months later. They were as well prepared for that course as we were.

Mixed Infantry platoons, that's going to be an issue. Mixed recruit platoons? Total non event.

I'm not sure how the Aussie's run their stuff but I see a big issue in running our boot camp co-ed. Bathrooms have no stalls or doors. Every movement is regulated. You shower in an open room. Half the time you walk in a circle through the room of shower heads and they call that a shower. The "lucky" times you get soap, you are instructed when and how long to soap an area and when to rinse, which is always like one second.
So to integrate there would need to be a lot of changes. "Standards" per say might not drop. But the overall intensity of boot camp would significatly.

 

[digrar]

Our 1960's era barracks were re rolled for mixed platoons, I never went up there, so I've got no idea how they did it, but plumbing is a pretty basic trade.

Sense of urgency training is easily enough to arrange any time anywhere (I still eat my food like a drill instructor is sitting on my shoulder urging me on to an increased pace of nutritional intake), it doesn't have to be done in the showers and latrines.

 

[fox1371]

Secretary Mabus can eat a dick. The end.

 

[Totentanz]

I'm not sure how the Aussie's run their stuff but I see a big issue in running our boot camp co-ed. Bathrooms have no stalls or doors. Every movement is regulated. You shower in an open room. Half the time you walk in a circle through the room of shower heads and they call that a shower. The "lucky" times you get soap, you are instructed when and how long to soap an area and when to rinse, which is always like one second.
So to integrate there would need to be a lot of changes. "Standards" per say might not drop. But the overall intensity of boot camp would significatly.

The company I was in at Fort Jackson had separate facilities (sleeping and shower/bathroom). Each room accommodated 30ish people in an open bay and had it's own facilities attached (common shower and stalled shitters). Each platoon was about 55-60 people, so regardless a platoon is getting split in half between two rooms. Given that we ran a 50/50 mix, they broke down into 30 men in one room, 30 women in another. Seemed pretty simple (given how our platoons were broken down).

I'm not sure exactly how USMC runs their show - if you're running a full-company open bay, that would be more complicated.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

The sad sad future of my most beloved Corps after we stop singing the Marine Hymn before lights out and instead sing kumbaya - :wall:

How da FUCK can she be an NCO?

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=922783661143848

 

[JBS]

And so continue the efforts to destroy the unique warrior culture of the United States Marine Corps.

 

[Gunz]

The Marines are going to lose many fine NCOs and Os over this retarded bullshit.

 

[AKkeith]

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MCRD San Diego runs open squad bay per platoon. Each company housed in the same barracks with 4 levels. So 4 open rooms. The showers are open rooms, the bathrooms are open rooms. Same for every bathroom around the base that is for recruits. They don't even have female bathrooms.
I understand these aren't problems money can't fix, it's just another thing to complicate something that's been working phenomenally for decades. With no chance at all of improvement and the ever-present problems looming, waiting to strike.

 

[Grunt]

MCRD San Diego runs open squad bay per platoon. Each company housed in the same barracks with 4 levels. So 4 open rooms. The showers are open rooms, the bathrooms are open rooms. Same for every bathroom around the base that is for recruits. They don't even have female bathrooms.
I understand these aren't problems money can't fix, it's just another thing to complicate something that's been working phenomenally for decades. With no chance at all of improvement and the ever-present problems looming, waiting to strike.

No need to get all worked up about it my brother...those that could stop it...don't care and won't do anything to stop the agenda's forward motion.

They "SHALL integrate" is the new mantra...and it will be done.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

 

[fox1371]

^^You beat me to it haha.

 

[Gunz]

It ain't the Corps I knew. To me and my old battle buds this is fucking sad. It's enough to make me want to do some serious fucking drinking. Ready...begin.

 

[JBS]

This election, vote like our Corps depends on it... because it does.

It ain't the Corps I knew. To me and my old battle buds this is fucking sad. It's enough to make me want to do some serious fucking drinking. Ready...begin.

 

[Gunz]

Congressman Duncan Hunter (R-California) attacks Maybus.

Congressman: Navy secretary's 'social meddling' more dangerous to Marines than ISIS

Fuckin right.

 

[Grunt]

Very good for the young Congressman! I wish him the best of luck with stirring the pot.

 

[DA SWO]

Gender integrated Basic isn't needed, we integrate during AIT/Tech School, etc.
Basic is about training individuals to function as a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine.
We can integrate sexes after they master the basics, because they will and do find free time to fuck each other brains out during Basic Training (and more so during AIT).
Seems sadder now, that Marine LTC relieved of command for demanding women perform at a higher level, wonder what that Bn Staff is thinking about now (probably how to bolt from the Recruit Bn).

 

[DocIllinois]

The sad sad future of my most beloved Corps after we stop singing the Marine Hymn before lights out and instead sing kumbaya - :wall:

How da FUCK can she be an NCO?

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=922783661143848

Serving in an Infantry company, we are always tasked to run ranges and provide corrective training during annual IWQ periods.

Attached support companies are also on the roster and this is a somewhat common sight when cycling them through the firing line. There's usually as many male troops as female needing such guidance. :wall:

Aint hatin' on the support/enablers, just sayin'.


Also, being meathead grunts, we aren't usually as patient and accommodating as the man in the video... to say the least. I trust that females entering my branch will be able to separate the message from the technique of delivery.

 

[Gunz]

They'll lower the standards to meet quota. They'll have to because not many female Marines will be able to pack the gear for infantry or SOF under current requirements...and that'll make the knuckleheads who came up with this shit look bad. So, they'll have to lower standards. That means more potential for fuck-ups and injuries and other things that slow you down, put you at risk, make you more of a target.

Like I've said before, I got no problem with women trigger-pullers if they can pack the gear under the tough requirements that now exist. But I do have a problem with co-ed Marine bootcamp. I think that's the stupidist fucking idea I've ever heard. I think that alone will lead to erosion of training intensity, much of which is mental and physical harrassment.

 

[Grunt]

Just imagine...you are only as FAST as your SLOWEST person....

Your only as STRONG as your WEAKEST....

Things will get interesting!

 

[Hillclimb]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=922783661143848

This is the saddest thing I've ever seen, words cannot even begin to describe.