Black Fleece ?

[Kraut783]

Has the Army given a wear out date yet for the black fleece? Last Alaract that talked about it was dated 2007. This was brought up today with me and some others, just in conversation. A search found dated items, but nothing specific.

This is more of a curiosity than anything else, thanks all

 

[DA SWO]

What color are they going too? Green?

 

[Kraut783]

Yeah, we have had a green fleece for a bit now....think 2007.....the green has Velcro for name tapes and rank, while black does not. In 2007 we killed the black fleece/watch cap, but kept the black fleece jacket.

 

[TLDR20]

I think the black fleece with ACU's looks/looked sharp.

 

[DA SWO]

I think the black fleece with ACU's looks/looked sharp.

Which is why it must go!

 

[Red-Dot]

The black fleece was and is far superior in warmth to the green stuff..... But the Army did what is usual par for the course....screw it up.

 

[pardus]

I don't know dates but the black hasn't been authorized in my units for a few years now.

 

[SpongeBob*24]

The blk fleece was good kit.......it was one of the warmest issue items ever handed out..minus a highly washed NBC suit of course.....

 

[DA SWO]

The blk fleece was good kit.......it was one of the warmest issue items ever handed out..minus a highly washed NBC suit of course.....

LOL.
I used to schedule myself for the fall EDRE's ARTEPs knowing we spend 90% of the time in MOPP4. wasn't so bad when the temps were in the 50's.

 

[TLDR20]

The blk fleece was good kit.......it was one of the warmest issue items ever handed out..minus a highly washed NBC suit of course.....

If worn over the top of a silky, t-shirt and uniform shirt, I cannot think of many things that are warmer.

 

[reed11b]

I miss my black fleece. Always looking for a cheap one, but the surplus stores near base charge an arm and a leg.
Reed

 

[Kraut783]

I don't know dates but the black hasn't been authorized in my units for a few years now.

Yep, a bunch of units have commanders that have mandated the green fleece....same with the ASU's, while the green class A's are still authorized....but you know how that goes

 

[RustyShackleford]

It's just an old polar tech level 3 jacket. I have one sitting in the closet that was issued to me in 1999.

What most fail to realize is that the fleece was designed to be a liner for the gore tex jacket, and it has been replaced as a liner. I laugh a little when I see the AGR and AD guys around here wearing the new fleece as a winter coat in subzero temps.

Just go to REI and look at the higher end jackets and their liners.

 

[Ranger Psych]

Yep, LEPS layers 1-4 were part of ECWCS Generation what... 3? Something like that. Not only that, but when it gets really cold you STOP WEARING BDU/ACU's. All the layers up on ya, near skin. No uniform, the uniform is the outer layer and if it's cold enough you need the layer 3/4 you eschew the ACU uniform because it's not retaining any heat and you reduce breathability by wearing it, where you can vent quicker/easier if necessary w/ the goretex side zips.