Civil-Military Divide

[AWP]

NASCAR is the Nickelback of auto racing.

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

NASCAR is the Nickelback of auto racing.

You will die a lonely hillbilly death.... traitor!

 

[RustyShackleford]

"Although a generalization, the military is a magnet for troubled kids. They go into the military less capable and often poor, and they emerge under-equipped for the real world. Their friends back on the home front have meanwhile gone to college or gained useful work experience. No wonder vets are susceptible."

I love this quote. Over the years I can't recall how many times I have heard guys say something along the lines of "I would have joined the Army, but I had to go to college" or "It's too bad you had to join the Army..."

After wearing a plate carrier around my neighborhood loaded with beer last year for halloween I was reminded how out of touch people in and around my age group really are.

 

[AWP]

You will die a lonely hillbilly death.... traitor!

Ha!

It isn't what it used to be, not even close. The France family turned its back on the sport to create the soccer mom-based product you have today. I grew up on it, but haven't watched a race in 20 years. It is no more exiting to watch than golf.

 

[TLDR20]

I think that the culture of " I am a wolf /lion / sheepdog....insert gay animal analogy here," and then referring to EVERYONE else as "sheep" has something to do with how veterans are perceived. Veterans can be their own worst enemy. I witness it at school. Guys in operator hats talking shit about this and that, those "sheep" are sitting there listening to the veteran cuss and talk disrespectfully, or they are listening to the poor grammar with which they(veterans) talk, and the stereotype is reinforced. Not to mention those "sheep" are some day going to be bosses and decision makers. We as veterans need to do a better job representing ourselves.

Also every experience doesn't relate to an experience you had in the military, you would think otherwise from listening to some people talk.

 

[RustyShackleford]

I think that the culture of " I am a wolf /lion / sheepdog....insert gay animal analogy here," and then referring to EVERYONE else as sheep has something to do with how veterans are perceived. Veterans can be there own worst enemy. I witness it at school. Guys in operator hats talking shit about this and that, those "sheep" are sitting there listening to the veteran cuss and talk disrespectfully, or they are listening to the poor grammar with which they talk, and the stereotype is reinforced. Not too mention those sheep are some day going to be bosses and decision makers. We as veterans need to do a better job representing ourselves.

Also every experience doesn't relate to an experience you had in the military, you would think otherwise from listening to some people talk.

The sheepdog shit is just lame. Always has been and it always will be.

Regarding veterans and perception, I witnessed it when I worked in DC. Guys (veterans) constantly ragging on non-vets, particularly the college kids. Rather than taking them to the side and teaching them a thing or two, they would constantly ride their asses. The funny thing is that very few of those "warriors" had or bothered to get their degree which translates into promotion points and now a lot of them are sitting there being supervised by those same kids they used to rag.