Drones(?) overhead….
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This is the new story going around. These are gov't drones searching for the nuke signature and they are keeping it quiet.
My own thoughts - one of these two theories:
The first and I believe most logical: I believe these are being operated by a large corporation at the request of some Government organization. What they are doing? Who knows. But look what happened after 9/11. Defense spending skyrocketed and new authorities were granted that otherwise never would have been granted. If you listen to any of the Senate hearings is the first thing they need are new authorities to track these. We are dealing with something on US soil so to get this data you’ll need to start spying and gathering data on US citizens without a warrant. It starts with mass collection.
Aside from a bunch of hoaxers, which could be but given the number of drones and how they are reacting to detection, is some foreign country like China is operating these. I find this unlikely because one) even with obfuscation it would be easy enough to pin it on them. It’s a direct violation of our airspace and not something they can try and say like a weather balloon drifted out of control. Also, they are using lights. If they wanted to gather intelligence or some type of data, they wouldn’t make it so easy to spot.
The first and I believe most logical: I believe these are being operated by a large corporation at the request of some Government organization. What they are doing? Who knows. But look what happened after 9/11. Defense spending skyrocketed and new authorities were granted that otherwise never would have been granted. If you listen to any of the Senate hearings is the first thing they need are new authorities to track these. We are dealing with something on US soil so to get this data you’ll need to start spying and gathering data on US citizens without a warrant. It starts with mass collection.
Aside from a bunch of hoaxers, which could be but given the number of drones and how they are reacting to detection, is some foreign country like China is operating these. I find this unlikely because one) even with obfuscation it would be easy enough to pin it on them. It’s a direct violation of our airspace and not something they can try and say like a weather balloon drifted out of control. Also, they are using lights. If they wanted to gather intelligence or some type of data, they wouldn’t make it so easy to spot.
Can't quite get on board with the hidden nuke/government cover-up conspiracy angle yet. Chiefly for the reason that if there's any chance of the nuke detonating or emitting lethal radiation--any chance of mass casualties--there has to be a significant number of individuals in the loop. And of all those in the loop, somebody will be the hero and squawk.
Like everybody else, I have no clue what started this...But I bet every swinging dick with a drone and a warped sense of humor in NJ will now be launching at night to add to the chaos.
Like everybody else, I have no clue what started this...But I bet every swinging dick with a drone and a warped sense of humor in NJ will now be launching at night to add to the chaos.
I think the vast majority of drone sightings are probably aircraft. There's a huge frequency illusion going on.
People don't pay attention to the sky and often are unaware how busy it can be. Those same people also can't tell the difference between aircraft; they're just seeing lights and saying "drone".
I'm more concerned about the (insert %) that are actually drones. Are they some SAP aircraft people caught, hobbyists, or foriegn power?
^We have magic drone zappers at gov't facilities overseas. They do just what is being described above.
I think any nuke signature would trigger all kinds of sensors we have in places like garbage dumps and hospitals. They can be triggered from an improperly disposed diaper from a baby thathad radioactive contrast for an MRI received chemotherapy. Radiology departments also have some sort of rad sensing device.
I think any nuke signature would trigger all kinds of sensors we have in places like garbage dumps and hospitals. They can be triggered from an improperly disposed diaper from a baby that
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Fox is saying the guy in @Dame's post lives near Picatinny Arsenal.
New Jersey pilot 'lost control' after encounter with unidentified drone: report
Well, well, well...
4/8833 NOTAM Details
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Issue Date :
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[td]November 25, 2024 at 2211 UTC[/td]
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Location :
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[td]Picatinny Arsenal, New Jersey near SPARTA VORTAC (SAX)[/td]
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Beginning Date and Time :
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[td]Effective Immediately[/td]
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Ending Date and Time :
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[td]December 26, 2024 at 2359 UTC[/td]
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Reason for NOTAM :
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[td]Temporary flight restrictions for Special Security Reasons[/td]
[td]
Type :
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[td]Security[/td]
[td]Operating Restrictions and Requirements[/td]
[td][/td][td]No UAS operations are authorized in the areas covered by this NOTAM (except as described).[/td][td][/td][td]EXC AS SPECIFIED BLW:
A. UAS OPS MAY BE AUTH WI THE DEFINED SSI AIRSPACE IF IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE RQMNTS LISTED BLW: 1) UAS OPS IN DCT SUPPORT OF AN ACT NTL DEFENSE, HOMELAND SECURITY, LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIREFIGHTING, SAR, OR DISASTER RESPONSE MISSION; 2) UAS OPS IN SUPPORT OF EVENT OPS; 3) COMMERCIAL UAS OPS WITH A VALID STATEMENT OF WORK; 4) MUST BE IN POSSESSION OF AN APPROVED SPECIAL GOVERNMENTAL INTEREST(SGI) AIRSPACE WAIVER; 5) AND COMPLY WITH ALL OTHER APPLICABLE FEDERAL AVIATION REGULATIONS.
B. UAS OPR IDENTIFIED IN A.1, A.2 OR A.3 ABV MUST APPLY FOR A SGI WAIVER VIA EMAIL AT 9-ATOR-HQ-SOSC@FAA.GOV.
C. UAS OPR WHO DO NOT COMPLY WITH APPLICABLE AIRSPACE RESTRICTIONS ARE WARNED THAT PURSUANT TO 10 U.S.C.SECTION 130I AND 6 U.S.C.SECTION 124N, THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE(DOD), THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY(DHS) OR THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE(DOJ) MAY TAKE SECURITY ACTION THAT RESULTS IN THE INTERFERENCE, DISRUPTION, SEIZURE, DAMAGING, OR DESTRUCTION OF UNMANNED ACFT DEEMED TO POSE A CREDIBLE SAFETY OR SECURITY THREAT TO PROTECTED PERSONNEL, FAC, OR ASSETS.
D. THE SYSTEM OPS SUPPORT CENTER (SOSC), IS THE CDN FAC FOR OPR ACCESS AND IS AVBL DLY FM 0600-2359 EASTERN, TEL 202-267-8276 FOR CDN.
E. THE FAA RECOMMENDS THAT ALL ACFT OPR CK NOTAMS FREQUENTLY FOR POSSIBLE CHANGES TO THIS TFR PRIOR TO OPS WI THIS REGION.OPR MAY REVIEW THE TFR DETAILS ON THE INTERNET AT Federal Aviation Administration - Graphic TFR's OR HTTPS://www.1800wxbrief.com. IF QUESTIONS REMAIN, CTC FSS, TEL 800-992-7433.
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Shout out to all of the journalists who have never heard of faa.gov or forgot how to use a search engine for airspace restrictions.
ETA: Apologies for the table format pooping the bed on me.
New Jersey pilot 'lost control' after encounter with unidentified drone: report
Well, well, well...
4/8833 NOTAM Details
[td]
Issue Date :
[/td]
[td]November 25, 2024 at 2211 UTC[/td]
[td]
Location :
[/td]
[td]Picatinny Arsenal, New Jersey near SPARTA VORTAC (SAX)[/td]
[td]
Beginning Date and Time :
[/td]
[td]Effective Immediately[/td]
[td]
Ending Date and Time :
[/td]
[td]December 26, 2024 at 2359 UTC[/td]
[td]
Reason for NOTAM :
[/td]
[td]Temporary flight restrictions for Special Security Reasons[/td]
[td]
Type :
[/td]
[td]Security[/td]
[td]Operating Restrictions and Requirements[/td]
[td][/td][td]No UAS operations are authorized in the areas covered by this NOTAM (except as described).[/td][td][/td][td]EXC AS SPECIFIED BLW:
A. UAS OPS MAY BE AUTH WI THE DEFINED SSI AIRSPACE IF IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE RQMNTS LISTED BLW: 1) UAS OPS IN DCT SUPPORT OF AN ACT NTL DEFENSE, HOMELAND SECURITY, LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIREFIGHTING, SAR, OR DISASTER RESPONSE MISSION; 2) UAS OPS IN SUPPORT OF EVENT OPS; 3) COMMERCIAL UAS OPS WITH A VALID STATEMENT OF WORK; 4) MUST BE IN POSSESSION OF AN APPROVED SPECIAL GOVERNMENTAL INTEREST(SGI) AIRSPACE WAIVER; 5) AND COMPLY WITH ALL OTHER APPLICABLE FEDERAL AVIATION REGULATIONS.
B. UAS OPR IDENTIFIED IN A.1, A.2 OR A.3 ABV MUST APPLY FOR A SGI WAIVER VIA EMAIL AT 9-ATOR-HQ-SOSC@FAA.GOV.
C. UAS OPR WHO DO NOT COMPLY WITH APPLICABLE AIRSPACE RESTRICTIONS ARE WARNED THAT PURSUANT TO 10 U.S.C.SECTION 130I AND 6 U.S.C.SECTION 124N, THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE(DOD), THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY(DHS) OR THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE(DOJ) MAY TAKE SECURITY ACTION THAT RESULTS IN THE INTERFERENCE, DISRUPTION, SEIZURE, DAMAGING, OR DESTRUCTION OF UNMANNED ACFT DEEMED TO POSE A CREDIBLE SAFETY OR SECURITY THREAT TO PROTECTED PERSONNEL, FAC, OR ASSETS.
D. THE SYSTEM OPS SUPPORT CENTER (SOSC), IS THE CDN FAC FOR OPR ACCESS AND IS AVBL DLY FM 0600-2359 EASTERN, TEL 202-267-8276 FOR CDN.
E. THE FAA RECOMMENDS THAT ALL ACFT OPR CK NOTAMS FREQUENTLY FOR POSSIBLE CHANGES TO THIS TFR PRIOR TO OPS WI THIS REGION.OPR MAY REVIEW THE TFR DETAILS ON THE INTERNET AT Federal Aviation Administration - Graphic TFR's OR HTTPS://www.1800wxbrief.com. IF QUESTIONS REMAIN, CTC FSS, TEL 800-992-7433.
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Shout out to all of the journalists who have never heard of faa.gov or forgot how to use a search engine for airspace restrictions.
ETA: Apologies for the table format pooping the bed on me.
Some of these so-called mystery drones are sporting red and green nav lights 
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US NRC report.
The following information was provided by the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection (NJDEP) via email:
"The licensee reported to NJDEP on December 3, 2024, that a Ge-68 pin source that they sent for disposal has been lost in transit on December 2, 2024.
Notification Date: 12/05/2024
Notification Time: 11:32 [ET]
Event Date: 12/02/2024
Event Notification Report For Day
The following information was provided by the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection (NJDEP) via email:
"The licensee reported to NJDEP on December 3, 2024, that a Ge-68 pin source that they sent for disposal has been lost in transit on December 2, 2024.
Notification Date: 12/05/2024
Notification Time: 11:32 [ET]
Event Date: 12/02/2024
Event Notification Report For Day
Low-level nuke loss triggered this response, I am skeptical.
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Considering these sighting go back into November, I tend to agree with you.
Just to make sure, I threw a bunch of Chiquita bananas (potassium 40) out in my backyard. In minutes this happened:
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Now you motherfuckers have crossed the line…
Multiple Drone Incursions Confirmed Over Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton
Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton in southern California experienced multiple drone incursions over its airspace over the past several days, a facility spokesman told The War Zoneon Tuesday morning.
Between Dec. 9 and 15, “there were six instances of unmanned aerial systems (UAS) observed entering Camp Pendleton’s airspace, with no threat to installation operations,” Capt James C. Sartain, a base spokesman, told The War Zone in response to our query on the matter.
Multiple Drone Incursions Confirmed Over Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton
Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton in southern California experienced multiple drone incursions over its airspace over the past several days, a facility spokesman told The War Zoneon Tuesday morning.
Between Dec. 9 and 15, “there were six instances of unmanned aerial systems (UAS) observed entering Camp Pendleton’s airspace, with no threat to installation operations,” Capt James C. Sartain, a base spokesman, told The War Zone in response to our query on the matter.
"No threat." Devices we can't fully identify, violating our installation's security, controlled by people we don't know, are "no threat."
Wrong fucking answer.
Start blasting these things out of the sky and civilian drone enthusiasts will find other places to pursue their hobby.
Hobbies, personal privacy, and national security are intersecting with this technology. Blow shit out of the sky and let the courts catch up especially where gov't facilities are concerned. Hell, use US bases to test counter-drone tech on interlopers. Wanna' sue for the destruction of your precious drone? Why was it over a USG installation?
Press releases and all are great, but drones need to be met with force. We aren't killing people or animals, these are drones. There's no first degree murder charge on the books for this, so shoot early, shoot often.
Hobbies, personal privacy, and national security are intersecting with this technology. Blow shit out of the sky and let the courts catch up especially where gov't facilities are concerned. Hell, use US bases to test counter-drone tech on interlopers. Wanna' sue for the destruction of your precious drone? Why was it over a USG installation?
Press releases and all are great, but drones need to be met with force. We aren't killing people or animals, these are drones. There's no first degree murder charge on the books for this, so shoot early, shoot often.
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From the article:
'Between Dec. 9 and 15, “there were six instances of unmanned aerial systems (UAS) observed entering Camp Pendleton’s airspace, with no threat to installation operations,”'
How do they know there's not a threat? Can somebody at Camp P. tell whether or not a drone is carrying some kind of munitions, even a small device? Or are they saying after the fact that there wasn't a threat because the drone left and nothing bad happened?
If it's the latter, WTF kind of defensive plan is that?
So, I guess I would ask; are the two things mutually exclusive? Could it be on the FAA website and also something else?
Here is the "conspiracy theory" for those not tracking- nuclear material was lost/stolen from a sealine container. The drones are "desperately looking" for this material using the cover of testing, development, etc. The Govt comes out and says the people are crazy (it's just airplanes and police drones), and also, we were supposed to be here. You just missed it (it's on the website!).
So in a "sum of all fears" scenario, a couple of cells from the millions of military-age males that came across the border are activated, in possession of enough nuclear material to do real harm, and are planning on massive attack. New Years NYC... or the inauguration. If you wanna go one step deeper, people are claiming (not me) that this is a false flag, and the blame goes to (you guessed it) the last country on Clark's list of 7 countries (just checked Syria off the list)- Iran. Somehow Iran has been "caught" hacking Kash Patel, planning assassinations, doing the normal sabre rattling- and for whatever reason, every single time they do, our friends in the MSM put it on the front page.
I know Kirby wouldn't lie, he has a great track record of transparency and a willingness to serve the American People. And yeah, shit tons of Demorcrats are going to "boycott" the inauguration (low level dorsk with TDS) that has to be politically motivated and probably has nothing to do with a threat.
My personal opinion? It's drones in the sky and because Christmas and New Years fall on a Wednesday, that basically means people are straight up off work for like 2 straight weeks and have plenty of time on their hands.
Guess we will just see, but for now, this falls into the same bucket as the emergency management test they pushed to everyone's phones that was supposed to activate the nanoparticles in the vaccine.
Kirby's a tool.
And we're still saddled with an inept Biden Administration until January 20th. So while I'm not on board with the lost/stolen nuke scenario coverup--yet--my level of trust in our government forbids me to discount anything.
And we're still saddled with an inept Biden Administration until January 20th. So while I'm not on board with the lost/stolen nuke scenario coverup--yet--my level of trust in our government forbids me to discount anything.
