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Iraq and ISIS Discussion
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Good. More bombs to blow these assholes to Hell.
Still have to locate them, and that will take boots on the ground.
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Yeah, I have little to no hope that the air strikes will do anything meaningful.
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Should be able to significantly degrade armor and heavy weapons to level the playing field a bit. But that would require more aggressiveness than we seem willing to undertake.
It's still kind of interesting and frustrating to see how the only ones there, other than the Kurds, that seem to be up to even a half assed fight side with these fucksticks. The rest don't seem to eager to make a stand.
It's still kind of interesting and frustrating to see how the only ones there, other than the Kurds, that seem to be up to even a half assed fight side with these fucksticks. The rest don't seem to eager to make a stand.
Sounds like NZ might be sending something somewhere somehow. TBC supposedly but I suspect decisions have already been made.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10588762/Decision-soon-on-Kiwi-role-in-Iraq
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10588762/Decision-soon-on-Kiwi-role-in-Iraq
One would think.
But politicians think politically, not tactically. And they're very comfortable with death from a safe distance.
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Students are often too ignorant and misinformed to make any sense.
That said we do have a degree of culpability in what is going on with ISIS.
They either don't know any better or they're just parroting a lot of the crap their socialist profs are pouring in their ears.
I agree that we have some responsibility for the outcome of the stew when we dump ingredients in it and stir the pot, but the critics always seem to come back to oil interests. And I ask myself, what's so wrong about going to war over oil? Everything depends on its unobstructed flow. The entire global economy runs on it. If oil isn't worth fighting for, what the hell is? Without it, the world stops. Commerce, trade, transportation, trains, planes, trucks, ships, the military, governments, everything grinds to a halt. Even if oil resources are only partially shut down, prices go up, fewer things "go" and the economy suffers.
My answer to critics is get used to it. In fifty or a hundred years with 9 or 10-billion people on this rock we may find ourselves fighting over food, living space and potable water.
ISIS is a product of so many variables over so many years even one as big as the United States would be hard to find in the mixture of "blame." The fact is, ISIS is operating as a rogue force, beyond the pale of any conduct commensurate with the circumstances that might have conspired to give it its rise.
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Epic fail. :wall:
Yeah, the highly-touted airstrikes that were supposed to be stopping ISIS from moving on Kobani, didn't. So now we'll have to go in and pry them out, house to house, room to room. Oh wait...we can't. Never mind.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/isis-within-8-miles-of-baghdad-airport-and-armed-with-manpads/
BAGHDAD -- Militants of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) have infiltrated one of Baghdad's outer suburbs, Abu Ghraib which is only eight miles from the runway perimeter of Baghdad's international airport.
It's cause for serious concern now that the Iraqi Defense Ministry has confirmed ISIS has MANPADs, shoulder fired anti-aircraft missiles.
The Iraqi army is still patrolling Abu Ghraib, but they play cat and mouse with the ISIS fighters who stage hit and run attacks on security forces
BAGHDAD -- Militants of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) have infiltrated one of Baghdad's outer suburbs, Abu Ghraib which is only eight miles from the runway perimeter of Baghdad's international airport.
It's cause for serious concern now that the Iraqi Defense Ministry has confirmed ISIS has MANPADs, shoulder fired anti-aircraft missiles.
The Iraqi army is still patrolling Abu Ghraib, but they play cat and mouse with the ISIS fighters who stage hit and run attacks on security forces
The Kurds seem to have halted them for now. I've heard the Daesh are using inexperienced men, & lets not forget if you were fighting for your home you'd fight hard.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/12/triple-suicide-bombing-in-iraq-kills-26-kurds/#
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/12/triple-suicide-bombing-in-iraq-kills-26-kurds/#
Also, it's home turf so the good guys know all the alleys etc. they have home ground advantage. The Kurd commander is apparently female.
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