Iraq and ISIS Discussion

[pardus]

My heart bleeds... I won't be happy until every single IS member and supporter is dead.

 

[AWP]

I just (6 hours ago) flew from Dubai to London, a trip I've made a dozen times. We always flew over Iraq, even when things were hectic there .

Today we flew over Iran and dog legged around Iraq into Turkey. The closest we came to an Iraqi city was Basra .

Going back to Dubai from London this week: same deal. We never overflew Iraq. That's kind of telling...

 

[Florida173]

I flew over Baghdad and Mosul right before Ramadan and when I thought Baghdad was gonna fall.

Dubai to Frankfurt.

Sure drank a good amount of liters of beer in Frankfurt.

 

[AWP]

I flew over Baghdad and Mosul right before Ramadan and when I thought Baghdad was gonna fall.

Dubai to Frankfurt.

Sure drank a good amount of liters of beer in Frankfurt.

Lufthansa? I was on British Air.

 

[Florida173]

I think it may have been lufthansa.. May have been Doha to Frankfurt too, but same thing

 

[AWP]

Countries can lose or make a ton of money with overflight rights. Afghanistan pulls down over 50 million a year from them alone. I'd think Iraq stands to lose much more.

 

[DA SWO]

Some good news...

https://medium.com/war-is-boring/ku...f-mount-sinjar-as-militants-flee-659b4e10b218

 

[Kraut783]

Hooray for the Kurds! I do hope they come out on top at the end.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Jordanian Pilot shot down last night...this poor man is fucked. I do not even want to try to imagine the horror that must fill his mind at this very moment...jesus, it looks like he's naked from the waste down.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ot-warplane-Syria-claim-monitoring-group.html

 

[Raptor]

I wonder how they shot it down. I thought our Raptors took out their Air Defense.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

I hate this. Almost wish I hadn't checked the news this morning.

 

[Raptor]

I hate this. Almost wish I hadn't checked the news this morning.

When I first checked, I was thankful it wasn't an American (I still am), but it still sucks and prayers are definitely going out to this guy and his family.

 

[DA SWO]

I wonder how they shot it down. I thought our Raptors took out their Air Defense.

Airplanes break and pilots eject.

 

[Florida173]

I wonder how they shot it down. I thought our Raptors took out their Air Defense.

Report suggests they have iglas

 

[Raptor]

Airplanes break and pilots eject.

I know, but that article said that it was probably shot down.

 

[CDG]

Report suggests they have iglas

The presumption is always that MANPADs are present. No way to track numbers on those and say that they've all been eliminated. That being said, I'd be pretty surprised if one took down an F-16. 16's can remain well above the threat ring, and have plenty of ways to counter a MANPAD, even the more advanced ones. Either the pilot really fucked up, or it was an IFE that the IS is claiming as a shootdown to bolster their reputation.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

@CDG , forgive me, but IFE? My Google Fu is failing me today.

 

[CDG]

@CDG , forgive me, but IFE? My Google Fu is failing me today.

In Flight Emergency.

 

[DA SWO]

In Flight Emergency.

or I Fucking Ejected :-/
That is my thought, we won't know until he is retrieved.
Jordan is saying AAA got him, but I wouldn't be surprised if an IFE forced him into the engagement envelope and then he was hit.

 

[Raptor]

Right now I'm just hoping we're able to get him back at all.