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Jordanian Pilot shot down last night...this poor man is fucked. I do not even want to try to imagine the horror that must fill his mind at this very moment...jesus, it looks like he's naked from the waste down.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ot-warplane-Syria-claim-monitoring-group.html
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yeah, he is so fucked. May his death be quick........
 
US is claiming pilot was not shot down...depending on who you believe, IFE is most likely. Something about this story, maybe the absolutely terrified look in his photos, I cannot stop thinking about this man tonight.
 
US is claiming pilot was not shot down...depending on who you believe, IFE is most likely. Something about this story, maybe the absolutely terrified look in his photos, I cannot stop thinking about this man tonight.
If it was an IFE, I definitely feel better about out planes over there, at least.
 
Allah will protect them, meanwhile my heart bleeds buckets of piss.

GAZIANTEP, Turkey — The Islamic State’s vaunted exercise in state-building appears to be crumbling as living conditions deteriorate across the territories under its control, exposing the shortcomings of a group that devotes most of its energies to fighting battles and enforcing strict rules.

Services are collapsing, prices are soaring, and medicines are scarce in towns and cities across the “caliphate” proclaimed in Iraq and Syria by the Islamic State, residents say, belying the group’s boasts that it is delivering a model form of governance for Muslims.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...bf8962-8092-11e4-b936-f3afab0155a7_story.html
 
Allah will protect them, meanwhile my heart bleeds buckets of piss.

GAZIANTEP, Turkey — The Islamic State’s vaunted exercise in state-building appears to be crumbling as living conditions deteriorate across the territories under its control, exposing the shortcomings of a group that devotes most of its energies to fighting battles and enforcing strict rules.

Services are collapsing, prices are soaring, and medicines are scarce in towns and cities across the “caliphate” proclaimed in Iraq and Syria by the Islamic State, residents say, belying the group’s boasts that it is delivering a model form of governance for Muslims.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...bf8962-8092-11e4-b936-f3afab0155a7_story.html
LOL.
 
ISIL has an interesting decision to make: Off the Jordanian pilot for fighting against Allah's chosen ones (or whatever BS they're pushing) or they let the guy live and their "faithful" will question why they allowed an "apostate" to live.

"We're the righteous Muslims here, so bombing us means they side with the Infidels. Off with his head."
"We're the righteous Muslims here, so not killing the pilot means we're weak or hypocrites for not killing the guy who just bombed us."
 
ISIL has an interesting decision to make: Off the Jordanian pilot for fighting against Allah's chosen ones (or whatever BS they're pushing) or they let the guy live and their "faithful" will question why they allowed an "apostate" to live.

"We're the righteous Muslims here, so bombing us means they side with the Infidels. Off with his head."
"We're the righteous Muslims here, so not killing the pilot means we're weak or hypocrites for not killing the guy who just bombed us."
Or kill a guy who is politically connected and really piss the Jordanians off.
 
@Freefalling , I was going to ask if you had a guess either way, but nothing ISIL does is founded on logic, so I imagine it would be tough to determine what they will do with him in the end. Maybe it's due to the Christmas season, but I've not stopped thinking about that pilot since the first pics went out of him stripped below the waist, with a look of pure acknowledgement of how fucked he was/is.
 
@Freefalling , I was going to ask if you had a guess either way, but nothing ISIL does is founded on logic, so I imagine it would be tough to determine what they will do with him in the end. Maybe it's due to the Christmas season, but I've not stopped thinking about that pilot since the first pics went out of him stripped below the waist, with a look of pure acknowledgement of how fucked he was/is.

At least it isn't the female Major from the UAE....but it sucks regardless.

Yeah, capturing a fellow Muslim kicks thing up a notch or ten. Do the other Muslim nations stay the course if this guy is executed? Do they leave? Do they go all Batman on that Middle Eastern Gotham? Do they stay in the fight, but suddenly stop flying over certain areas or have "aiming" problems on their bombing runs? Something(s) will change, but none of us know what.
 
At least it isn't the female Major from the UAE....but it sucks regardless.

Yeah, capturing a fellow Muslim kicks thing up a notch or ten. Do the other Muslim nations stay the course if this guy is executed? Do they leave? Do they go all Batman on that Middle Eastern Gotham? Do they stay in the fight, but suddenly stop flying over certain areas or have "aiming" problems on their bombing runs? Something(s) will change, but none of us know what.
What's with the female Major?
 
ISIL's made the killing of "fellow" Muslims one of its specialties. Why should this Jordanian pilot be any different? They've killed thousand of Muslims. He's totally fucked. In their radical view they are the true believers and followers and interpreters of the Prophet. And any Muslim who doesn't interpret the word of Allah the same as they do, is a disbeliever.

Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are disbelievers.

He's fucked.
 
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ISIL's made the killing of "fellow" Muslims one of its specialties. Why should this Jordanian pilot be any different? They've killed thousand of Muslims. He's totally fucked. In their radical view they are the true believers and followers and interpreters of the Prophet. And any Muslim who doesn't interpret the word of Allah the same as they do, is a disbeliever.

Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are disbelievers.

He's fucked.

That particular world view is what has fueled the fight between Sunni and Shia for a very long time. Given, 1400 some-odd years ago, it started out as a war of succession, but it mutated over the centuries into exactly what Ocoka One just stated.

He's well and truly fucked.
 
That particular world view is what has fueled the fight...

And the Israelis have long taken advantage of it, incorporating into their playbook the disunity, hatred, mistrust and religious strife characteristic among their Arab enemies. It's the major weakness of the Muslim/Arab world and has been since the days of T.E. Lawrence. They'd all end up killing each other if nobody was around to interfere.
 
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