Iraq and ISIS Discussion

[ThunderHorse]

@ThunderHorse

Ok, so you're taking the Moscow spin.

Al Qaeda has been in control of Idlib for almost two years.

Supposedly this guy is the source of the report: NHS doctor accused of being part of British jihadi group in Syria

I would claim that he isn't viable. Add to the fact that the Western media has no sources on the ground.

ETA: Every time I read this crap in the news, my reaction is: No shit, and why is this being talked about. U.S. Military Drawing Up Options for Syria Response

I'll give the WSJ credit though, they called it a suspected attack. Again, we need to get out of there.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

NBC News claiming 24 cruise missiles launched into Syria. Looking for link....

 

[ThunderHorse]

U.S. Launches Missile Strike on Syria in Response to Gas Attack

We're dumb.

 

[TLDR20]

Should be interesting...

Speaking Thursday to reporters aboard Air Force One, Trump said of Assad: “He’s there, and I guess he’s running things, so I guess something should happen.”

Our President said that...

 

[ThunderHorse]

So I suppose Trump's Red lines start targeting cycles.

Kind of weird, but we declared war on Imperial Germany 100 years ago today.

ETA: Interesting stuff in here Mattis briefs President Trump on military options against Syrian leader Assad's regime

 

[81FO]

Syrian Airbase where chemical weapons were launched from was targeted.

US launches missiles into Syria in response to chemical weapons attack

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Delete

 

[81FO]

Iraq and ISIS Discussion

Thanks @Ooh-Rah

 

[Ooh-Rah]

I was wondering about this part, found my answer:

Before the strikes, U.S. military officials said they informed their Russian counterparts of the impending attack. The goal was to avoid any accident involving Russian forces.

Nevertheless, Russia's Deputy U.N. ambassador Vladimir Safronkov warned that any negative consequences from the strikes would be on the "shoulders of those who initiated such a doubtful and tragic enterprise."

The U.S. also notified its partner countries in the region prior to launching the strikes.

U.S. missiles blast Syria base where chem planes took off

 

[ThunderHorse]

Trump's Statement: http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/trumpsyriastatement.pdf?mod=e2tw

 

[Salt USMC]

Honestly, this is probably the best way to respond. Degrade their CBRN capability, send a strong message, and make sure to let the Russians know to get the hell out of dodge. Now, if this is the pre-amble for 'Operation Syrian Freedom', that's another story entirely. Trump campaigned on not getting embroiled in any more MENA conflicts and he's going to piss off a ton of people if he begins a big troop buildup in Syria.

 

[AWP]

I tried to explain Syria to my wife. We eventually settled on "Islamic Florida."

 

[ThunderHorse]

Honestly, this is probably the best way to respond. Degrade their CBRN capability, send a strong message, and make sure to let the Russians know to get the hell out of dodge. Now, if this is the pre-amble for 'Operation Syrian Freedom', that's another story entirely. Trump campaigned on not getting embroiled in any more MENA conflicts and he's going to piss off a ton of people if he begins a big troop buildup in Syria.

Well the Army is offering two-year enlistments and huge bonuses for a lot of MOSs...

 

[Mac_NZ]

If President Trump is going to get emotional about pictures of children suffering then you guys are going to need a hell of a lot more Tomahawks.

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

Disappointing to say the least, but message sent. Must have been some pretty solid intel to narrow it down to the airbase the chemical weapons came from... with no Russkies killed and very few Syrian soldiers wounded/killed.

We'll see what the world says about it over the next week or two.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

We'll see what the world says about it over the next week or two.

Posturing, party of Two!

Putin calls US airstrikes on Syria an 'illegal act of aggression'

Putin calls US airstrikes on Syria an 'act of aggression' | Daily Mail Online

To add -

The US used a special military-to-military hotline to warn Russia it was launching an airstrike on a Syrian air base about 30 minutes in advance - but the Trump administration did not ask Moscow for permission.

It is likely Russia alerted the Syrians about the incoming strikes but this has not been confirmed.

 

[AWP]

I am just totally surprised, shocked even, that the peace-loving leader of Russia would use our actions to justify an escalation of the war.

Syria airstrikes: Russia to suspend airspace deal with US

Russia announced Friday that it will suspend a deal it made with the United States in 2015 to prevent a mid-air collision over Syria just hours after President Trump announced he authorized a missile attack on an airbase.

Under the memorandum, signed after Russia launched an air campaign in Syria, Moscow and the U.S. had exchanged information about their flights to avoid incidents in the crowded skies over Syria.

Russia said it will help Syria strengthen its air defenses after U.S. strike.

 

[Red Flag 1]

W

 

[SpitfireV]

So what has this actually achieved?

 

[Gunz]

So what has this actually achieved?

It has established firmly that President Obama's so-called Red Line in the sand is no longer just empty rhetoric under the Trump administration; it has increased his international credibility and it has made him, at least figuratively, a perceived "defender of the innocent and a punisher of bad guys"... an image that plays well in the notoriously liberal media, which, I notice this morning, seems to be fairly supportive of Trump's decisive response.

I may be in the minority here, but this is the kind of message that needs to be sent when evil cunts resort to WMDs.

And @ThunderHorse, I had to disagree with you for these same reasons ^^