Israel and Iran

Marauder06 said:
Good points, especially the bolded part.

This is why absolutes are so bad in politics. If we "obliterated Iran's nuclear capabilities" in the Fordow strike, why are those capabilities still a threat today? Did they rebuild everything in that time? We were wrong in our initial assessment? ...?

A lot of people, myself included, remember the "WMD" debacle of the Iraq invasion. Let's not repeat that one.
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I can't find it now but while site was down but there was talk about the purchases and transfers from Russia and China in the past year. With the rumors of a nuclear test after the earthquake yesterday. It wouldn’t surprise me if Iran was planning any sort of attack, whether nuclear or not.
 
Blizzard said:
Video of the submariners wet dream becoming reality:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2029195728497643767

This is the first time a U.S. submarine has sunk an enemy ship with a torpedo in ~80 years. They'll be telling their grandkids about this moment for years.
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I'm curious if leaving out the ROKS Cheonan sinking by a NK torpedo was intentional or not when Wikipedia tried to fact check Hegseth on it being the "first sinking by a torpedo since WW2" or was it taken out of context by misinterpreting that it was the first time since WW2 for the US Navy?

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The Quartermaster said:
I'm curious if leaving out the ROKS Cheonan sinking by a NK torpedo was intentional or not when Wikipedia tried to fact check Hegseth on it being the "first sinking by a torpedo since WW2" or was it taken out of context by misinterpreting that it was the first time since WW2 for the US Navy?

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First US since WWII I believe. The first sinking of a surface combatant by a nuclear powered sub was HMS Conqueror and the Belgrano during the Falklands War.

I think the Pakis and Indians had some subs sunk or doing the sinking during one of their many conflicts.

Sinking a ship that far away from home waters is a major statement. Also, the dudes running to dive off the bow. lol
 
Blizzard said:
Let's not forget about this moment either...

Ooh-Rah

Thread 'Two U.S. Navy boats with 10 sailors on board taken into Iranian custody'

What the what?!?

BREAKING NEWS: Two U.S. Navy boats taken into Iranian custody

Adds more feels to that torpedo kill.
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Listen, I try to manage my freedom boners to appropriate moments, but watching a sub clack off a FUCKING TORPEDO KILL WHILE WATCHING THROUGH A PERISCOPE?! Cmon man what am I supposed to do here.

Absolutely unreal levels of American Dynamism.

Also, I have been making this point about our intelligence communities and their "assessments" of our adversaries for a while in regards to Russia and China...

WHERE YOU AT INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY?! Did ya take too much of your time signing letters talking about Hunter Biden's laptop being fake? Didja? Cause all the "assessments" about Iran's impenetrable IADs? Wrong, Buff has entered the chat. Cyber? WHERE? Iranian Navy? bro they're currently residing at the bottom of the ocean and we are sending trickshots from subs for funsies.
 
amlove21 said:
Listen, I try to manage my freedom boners to appropriate moments, but watching a sub clack off a FUCKING TORPEDO KILL WHILE WATCHING THROUGH A PERISCOPE?! Cmon man what am I supposed to do here.

Absolutely unreal levels of American Dynamism.

Also, I have been making this point about our intelligence communities and their "assessments" of our adversaries for a while in regards to Russia and China...

WHERE YOU AT INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY?! Did ya take too much of your time signing letters talking about Hunter Biden's laptop being fake? Didja? Cause all the "assessments" about Iran's impenetrable IADs? Wrong, Buff has entered the chat. Cyber? WHERE? Iranian Navy? bro they're currently residing at the bottom of the ocean and we are sending trickshots from subs for funsies.
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Up until now, we'd been in a sustained period where our leadership seems to have forgotten that we can just do stuff.
 
AWP said:
First US since WWII I believe. The first sinking of a surface combatant by a nuclear powered sub was HMS Conqueror and the Belgrano during the Falklands War.

I think the Pakis and Indians had some subs sunk or doing the sinking during one of their many conflicts.

Sinking a ship that far away from home waters is a major statement. Also, the dudes running to dive off the bow. lol
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My point was Wiki was trying to fact check with fake news and got fact checked themselves.
 
amlove21 said:
Listen, I try to manage my freedom boners to appropriate moments, but watching a sub clack off a FUCKING TORPEDO KILL WHILE WATCHING THROUGH A PERISCOPE?! Cmon man what am I supposed to do here.

Absolutely unreal levels of American Dynamism.

Also, I have been making this point about our intelligence communities and their "assessments" of our adversaries for a while in regards to Russia and China...

WHERE YOU AT INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY?! Did ya take too much of your time signing letters talking about Hunter Biden's laptop being fake? Didja? Cause all the "assessments" about Iran's impenetrable IADs? Wrong, Buff has entered the chat. Cyber? WHERE? Iranian Navy? bro they're currently residing at the bottom of the ocean and we are sending trickshots from subs for funsies.
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If you don’t overvalue our enemies capabilities you don’t get an unlimited defense budget…
 

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