Kidnapped Nigerian Girls

Should the US intervene to assist in the recovery of the kidnapped Nigerian schoolgirls?

  • yes

    Votes: 24 50.0%

  • no

    Votes: 24 50.0%
  • Total voters
    48
  • Poll closed .
If this were a train or hijacked Nigerian plane how would we react? Otherwise, "doo something?" I think I'll have another beer, that's doing something. "Do something...."
 
Yes! But more so the world should "do something" 200 young girls kidnapped and going through god knows what...shouldn't even be a question.

We have the resource in the area, no reason we haven't "done something". It sad we even need to have a discussion on it, child kidnapping/slavery should be a top priority for the world and its damn irritating that its not.

Sorry for the rant, its an issue I have a big damn problem with...
 
How is this anything to do with the USA or any other country that isn't called Nigeria?

Everyone is cool with tens of thousands of child/adult slaves being taking since time immemorial to the present day but when they are taken in a group of this size all of a sudden "DO SOMETHING!!!1!"
Really? and just suppose we get them back, do we pat ourselves on the back and make documentaries for the next 20 years celebrating our victory against slavery? Yes probably, meanwhile we will sit back and ignore the next 1,000 and 10,000 slaves taken in groups of 1 - 30 for the next 50 years.
Grow the fuck up America/the West.

KONEY 2014!!!


ETA, For the record I'm cool with us helping out in the spirit of helping a friendly country, but people need to see the ridiculousness of their outrage over this.
The USA etc... have turned a blind eye to slavery until now, are we going to make a serious effort to sort it out now? lol I think we all know the answer to that...

Also if any foreign country is going to take the lead on this it should be the UK.
 
Ranger Psych said:
We didn't "do something" for our own people in Bhengazi... why should we do something now.
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What he said.
The other issue that came to mind is how much money and resources has our government already poured into Nigeria and what bang for our buck are we getting? Where is that money and how are those resources being used? Since I am no expert by any means, I Googled and found this: http://www.nigerdeltarising.org/article/2009/09/14/us-military-involvement-nigeria
 
If we were not talking about 200 kids, (and being girls, your imagination of what they may be going through works overtime), we would not be having this conversation. That said, we "are" having this conversation and we/someone (we again?) need to help those kids.

Disclaimer - Up until I had kids of my own, I had little, if any, sensitivity to topics like this. Now, I cannot even watch L&O SVU anymore because I imagine my wife/kids in those horrible situation. I've got zero tolerence for kids in pain, fuck the politics and help these little girls.

Additional dislaimer - Yes, I know I am coming from an emotional point of view, and I do not care.
 
Nigeria is one of the most resource rich countries in the world. Nigeria is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. Nigerian government officials make more than British MPs or US Senators/congressmen. Nigeria has one of the lowest standards of living for it's general populace in the world. Nigeria has a large army/national police force. Nigeria receives billions of dollars of US Aid every year. Nigerian law is so lax it is the world's base for internet scams, and high on the list for weapons brokerage, and human brokerage.

Nigeria needs to stand up to the Boko Haram on it's own if it is to gain any credibility as a true nation.

I personally cannot stand the fact these groups exist and are sanctioned by a 'religion of peace'... But this is not a personal issue, this is a Nigerian internicene issue where the government failed to protect its own citizens from it's own radicals due to it's internal corruption and fear of it's own people.

Let Nigeria take care of this unless they repay some of the aid and pay for the US effort to launch the operation they want us to undertake... let them buy our help, it'll be with our money, stashed over the years by the coffers of corrupt governments and government officials.

I apologize if this offends anybody, but Nigeria has the means at it's disposal to right this situation... but the leaders of Boko Haram are probably members of one of the ruling families of Nigeria, let those families right their own wrongs.
 
The Nigerian's didn't seem to need much help when they crushed Biafra...
 
We can give them intel and other data as asistance.
They can choose to use it, or let those girls die.
The rulers of that country should choose wisely.
 
Unless one of those girls is an American citizen I can't support our troops taking an active role in a rescue attempt. Providing intel and other support is appropriate, and it seems we're doing that. Anything beyond that isn't warranted.

With that said, I'd love to see the Nigerians kick Boko Haram's teeth in.
 
Well France has been taking the NATO lead on Africa for the last two years. Sounds like a good mission for the African Union, backed by French and NATO support.
 
If I react emotionally, I say , yes! But then, this is occurring all over the world. As @SpitfireV mentioned above, and in addition to Eastern Europe, the practice is rampant. The prostituting of women and children needs to be addressed internationally. I wish we were big enough, strong enough, and financially capable of being the world's savior, but we are not.
 
JHD said:
I wish we were big enough, strong enough, and financially capable of being the world's savior, but we are not.
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Why? You form a country and you take your chances. You aren't owed anything by another country who's bigger and stronger than you. We shouldn't intervene in anything unless it has direct implications for the USA.
 
CDG said:
Why? You form a country and you take your chances. You aren't owed anything by another country who's bigger and stronger than you. We shouldn't intervene in anything unless it has direct implications for the USA.
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Intel sharing isn't a big deal. We have minions in cubicles looking for him anyway.
Direct involvement is OK, as long as the guy ends up dead (honest sir, he resisted).
 
CDG said:
Why? You form a country and you take your chances. You aren't owed anything by another country who's bigger and stronger than you. We shouldn't intervene in anything unless it has direct implications for the USA.
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Really, it was a rhetorical comment, my point being that we can't be the world's savior as all other countries never want to step up to the plate, but leave the US to do it all or lead the way. I don't think it is our responsibility, but just the opposite. Others that have the capability need to take care of their own.
 
Not worth a single second of American time, or a penny of American money.

I say this because let's be honest, it isn't. Kids go missing and are sold into various forms of slavery on the daily, probably by the minute. It may seem cold hearted, but honestly I don't think we should have our foreign policy dictated by the tears of moms imagining it is their kids who were kidnapped. Nigeria should take care of their own fucking problems.
 
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TLDR20 said:
Not worth a single second of American time, or a penny of American money.

I say this because let's be honest, it isn't. Kids go missing and are sold into various forms of slavery on the daily, probably by the minute. It may seem cold hearted, but honestly I don't think we should have our foreign policy dictated by the tears of moms imagining it is their kids who were kidnapped. Nigeria should take care of their own fucking problems.
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Agreed^^
But .... the current administration has approved more funds and personnel to work with NATO to save the Nigerian girls... because, 8 more were taken. Am I the only one with a question of why there was not more security emplaced at schools with the threats issued by the Boko Haram after the large kidnapping. It wasn't the first, just the largest so far. This is a friggin soup sammich
 

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