Marine Corps retreats on court-martial charges in Taliban urination case.

[Chopstick]

I thought we had a thread about this case somewhere but I was unable to find it. I was just going to add on to the existing thread so I apologize if this is a reposting.
I guess General Amos and the USMC really really did not want those emails to be examined in pubic.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...retreats-court-martial-charges-taliba/?page=1

The defense attorney said he wanted to see email traffic between the commandant, his counsel and his legal division.

“That email traffic would have revealed that [the commandant] and his lawyers had engaged in a secret, corrupt effort to rig and control the investigations and dispositions of the so-called desecration cases until Capt. Clement refused to submit to a corrupt process [of being] charged with crimes he did not commit,” he said.

 

[Teufel]

Wow, i bet they will reopen the rest of the cases.

 

[Marauder06]

Wow. There must be some REALLY interesting traffic going back and forth there.

 

[Teufel]

Wow. There must be some REALLY interesting traffic going back and forth there.

These guys are probably going to get off scott free now. I don't think they should have been crucified for this but they do deserve to be punished. I know a lot of people rally behind these guys but peeing on Muslims was stupid, pointless and set us back operationally across the country.

 

[Chopstick]

How does this speak to the integrity of the Commandant and to the integrity of USMC military justice in general(no pun intended) under his command?

 

[DA SWO]

I thought we had a thread about this case somewhere but I was unable to find it. I was just going to add on to the existing thread so I apologize if this is a reposting.
I guess General Amos and the USMC really really did not want those emails to be examined in pubic.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...retreats-court-martial-charges-taliba/?page=1

I thought so too, there was a story where the Defense Team asked for a DoD IG Investigation because HQ MC was filing ethics complaints against the Defense JAG's in an effort to shut them down.

I think CMS, MCSJA and some other Senior Officers will retire soon.

 

[DA SWO]

These guys are probably going to get off scott free now. I don't think they should have been crucified for this but they do deserve to be punished. I know a lot of people rally behind these guys but peeing on Muslims was stupid, pointless and set us back operationally across the country.

Posting it on YouTube was dumb.

Why do people post this shit without thinking?

 

[8654Maine]

Just plain stupid on all parts.

The whole corruption/influence thing by the brass...a whole new can of worms.

 

[Marine0311]

Posting it on YouTube was dumb.

Why do people post this shit without thinking?

I would punish them for this alone.

Fucking Marines though.....:wall:

 

[TLDR20]

What kind of dude thinks its a good idea to piss on bodies? I mean come on guys. Posting it is just the icing on the retard cake.

 

[pardus]

What kind of dude thinks its a good idea to piss on bodies? I mean come on guys. Posting it is just the icing on the retard cake.

Ritual cleansing?

lol

 

[Chopstick]

Ritual cleansing?

lol

Well urine is sterile isnt it? But the crux of this article is not so much the infraction but the question of what was contained in those emails the Commandant sent. As @Marauder06 it must have been some damning communication to warrant this action, no?

 

[pardus]

Well urine is sterile isnt it? But the crux of this article is not so much the infraction but the question of what was contained in those emails the Commandant sent. As @Marauder06 it must have been some damning communication to warrant this action, no?

Yes it is sterile unless you have an infection.

Probably, wouldn't be surprised at all. Or they just didn't want to do it anymore. Who knows what the real reason is.

 

[Chopstick]

I wonder if this will cause the other...what was it 8 cases to be reviewed? I agree that the incident was absolutely wrong but this alleged tampering with the case(s) doesnt help the credibility of the entire prosecution process.

 

[Teufel]

How does this speak to the integrity of the Commandant and to the integrity of USMC military justice in general(no pun intended) under his command?

Correct, this is a blatant case of command influence and it is also 100% wrong. Wrong enough for these Marines to get off. Commanders can't influence the legal process, especially senior commanders like the Commandant. He really above and beyond to punish these Marines and he will pay the price for it. Or they won't pay the price or it? One of the other.

 

[Chopstick]

Thank you for your comment @Teufel. As you know, I highly value your opinion particular in USMC topics.

 

[DA SWO]

Correct, this is a blatant case of command influence and it is also 100% wrong. Wrong enough for these Marines to get off. Commanders can't influence the legal process, especially senior commanders like the Commandant. He really above and beyond to punish these Marines and he will pay the price for it. Or they won't pay the price or it? One of the other.

DoD IG Investigation will be interesting, how long has the current Commandant been in that position?

 

[Chopstick]

DoD IG Investigation will be interesting, how long has the current Commandant been in that position?

General Amos became the Commandant of the USMC on October 22, 2010.

 

[AWP]

I guess General Amos and the USMC really really did not want those emails to be examined in pubic.

I guess I'm the only one juvenile enough to catch the typo...

This wole case is like a cake: layer after layer of stupid.

 

[Chopstick]

I guess I'm the only one juvenile enough to catch the typo...

This wole case is like a cake: layer after layer of stupid.

Wole? Looks like you caught my typonese!